Article Eliminating the plants used as raw material for the creation of narcotic drugs (1 Viewer)

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Hailstones Melt

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Why aren't the drug companies producing these dangerously addictive drugs treated more like heroin dealers? Meth has killed and enslaved more people then heroin.
Methodone, or methamphetamine?
 
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Hailstones Melt

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I think the whole post from David Topi is one of those mind-stretchers, where the concomitant realisation is that our Higher Selves have energetically more say and a bigger overview of an entire situation, than the avatars of those Higher Selves physically present here on Earth. A physical example is that the body systems run themselves (respiration, for example) where we may observe, but we, the avatar do not initiate and maintain by thought the autonomous process. What if the planetary logos desires a change in the living plant forms (forms of any kind being pure energy interpreted as structure) and that change triggers a huge timeline jump, into a timeline where no such plants ever existed? Or again, possibly, with the opiate industry being a lifeline economy for the cabal, the Event may not be able to occur until that probability and/or actuality is extinguished? The ability of humans to appreciate their natural surroundings without forming addictions is probably part of the frequency leap that is required for this time of evolution.

I remember back in the 1990's I was intrigued to hear from a more aware and awake person being interviewed on radio, that extinct animal species have just had an energetic form adjustment, and there is no need to lament their departure so much (of course you can reflect on them fondly!) because their energy has not "gone" anywhere. They still exist somewhere in the multiverse, in whatever energetic form, but are deleted from the types of forms that are inhabiting this planetary space.

I might have a theme going here, but acceptance might be both the test and the prize, in this case.
 

Alain

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Wonder if the point of the original post was to get people thinking.

I believe we agree that there is a time and place for narcotics such as morphine, so eliminating opium would pose a hardship on many people.
Those who profit from heroin and cocaine also profit from synthetics such as fentanyl (synthetic opiod).

So, how would eliminating the plants help? Am I missing something?
Is perhaps a sign this things are no longer nedded so to highten the vibrations of old earth. No idea how much weight this thought can have
 

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So, how would eliminating the plants help? Am I missing something?
Some people use drugs as escapism, not for personal growth, so removing the plants would remove one route of escapism, and force people to deal with their problems instead of running away from them. Getting rid of the source plants would also, probably, push at least some people to investigate and try other methods of pain relief, like meditation or reiki.
 
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Linda

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Some people use drugs as escapism, not for personal growth, so removing the plants would remove one route of escapism, and force people to deal with their problems instead of running away from them. Getting rid of the source plants would also, probably, push at least some people to investigate and try other methods of pain relief, like meditation or reiki.
Check out the previous posts. Here is one.
The question remains - how will this help because the less lighted ones continue to manufacture synthetics. It is not the plants but the people looking to make a buck.

This has turned into a very interesting discussion about medicinal use and abuse of plants. Before big Pharma got into the act, people relied on mostly women who knew how to treat illness and injury with herbs and tonics. Then, as always, someone decided there was a buck to be made, and these knowledgeable people were effectively run out of business.

As world trade expanded, the Victorian era saw addictions to opium and cocaine. It was possible for anyone to buy tablets and tonics legally.

When the knowledgable person is out of the mix, misuse grows. When opium and cocaine came to Europe, their properties were unknown, but they were quickly adopted as panaceas for almost every ailment. Then we have opium dens in Asia, where people could forget the troubles of their lives.

What are the threads here? Many people will do anything for relief from physical or psychological / spiritual pain. People looking for financial gain exploit these troubles. Legitimate uses of morphine, for example, are replaced with synthetic substitutes, which can be more easily produced for the masses.

I can see the immediate value of cutting off the supply to the people making money from heroin and cocaine. However, in the long-run, it does not address the synthetics that are plaguing large swaths of the population. Would it not just prompt the money-grubbers to concoct more dangerous synthetics (meth)?

Looking at who is using the pill supplies flooding this country, suggests a deeper issue - people wanting any kind of relief from their lives.
 

therium

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Linda Yes there will still be synthetics made if the plants are hard to find in the wild. But by finding, and putting pressure on, the big buyers and distributors of the synthetics, the authorities can trace back to where they are made and eventually shut down the factories through one means or another. But all this takes time. It might take several more years.
 
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Not when the "authorities" want people down and out and profit from them. If all the druggies woke up and started challenging "authority" they would and their drug cohorts would all be out of jobs and money. Ain't gonna happen with out a fight. Even the cops are in it.
 
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Alain and Hailstones Melt hit on the crux of questions we've been discussing. Perhaps In the higher timeline, the legitimate needs for drugs such as morphine will no longer be an issue.

Is perhaps a sign this things are no longer nedded so to highten the vibrations of old earth
I think the whole post from David Topi is one of those mind-stretchers, where the concomitant realisation is that our Higher Selves have energetically more say and a bigger overview of an entire situation, than the avatars of those Higher Selves physically present here on Earth.
This is a great thread - so many people have joined in and come up with great ideas.
 

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