5 colonies on Mars...anyone seen them all? (3 Viewers)

[Lila]

It sounds like to me you traveled via the etheric body as you could feel light and see at night, whereas the other time in the hall you were traveling via your astral body. Mind you I'm just throwing words out there to try and describe the differences between modes of travel. I've never really found a definitive source that others agree upon as the words to use to describe these differences.

I do not usually use the Astral Body, I etherically travel or mentally project, there's a slight difference between these two in my lingo but that difference is only the difference in what dimension one perceives information in. According to my lingo the astral body can travel 3rd and 4th dimensions, the mental body can cover 3rd through 12th and still retrieve information and the etheric body can travel 3rd through 20th.

Originally when I started OBE'ing for the first 5 years or so I dropped into meditation and projected when I saw the smoke ring portal things open. The last few years I project before I see the portals - it's very instant - I'm just at the designated destination on the thought having already dropped into meditiation. I do however when out and about occasionally see portals, I don't take them though as I wasn't the one who opened it. Well thats not strictly true, I have taken them before, but had an idea what laid on the other side before jumping through.

I admire your ability to even begin to sort out how to verbalize this stuff!
The most I have felt able to do is describe, as best I can, some of what I experience without even attempting to categorize (at least for now).
I'm really grateful some of you are tackling this end of things

 

[June]

It sounds like to me you traveled via the etheric body as you could feel light and see at night, whereas the other time in the hall you were traveling via your astral body. Mind you I'm just throwing words out there to try and describe the differences between modes of travel. I've never really found a definitive source that others agree upon as the words to use to describe these differences.

I do not usually use the Astral Body, I etherically travel or mentally project, there's a slight difference between these two in my lingo but that difference is only the difference in what dimension one perceives information in. According to my lingo the astral body can travel 3rd and 4th dimensions, the mental body can cover 3rd through 12th and still retrieve information and the etheric body can travel 3rd through 20th.

Originally when I started OBE'ing for the first 5 years or so I dropped into meditation and projected when I saw the smoke ring portal things open. The last few years I project before I see the portals - it's very instant - I'm just at the designated destination on the thought having already dropped into meditiation. I do however when out and about occasionally see portals, I don't take them though as I wasn't the one who opened it. Well thats not strictly true, I have taken them before, but had an idea what laid on the other side before jumping through.

Thankyou for this info, it has encouraged me to start projecting out of my apartment again.

 

[Sinera]

That is funny. Reminded be of the character Falkor, a white luck dragon, from the movie The Never Ending Story (believe around 1984) that was the adaptation of a German fantasy book a few years earlier. Much similarity there. Hmm.

Correct. Well spotted. It's a wilful thought form adapted from that book. We often travel in thought forms to express motion, like our own crafts or shape-shiftings, or flying through tunnels or from plane to plane, or globe to globe, or flying up although there is no real 'up' in the non-physical. We could also teleport with free will only without these tools. They are tools, metaphors adapted from culture surrounding us because we are accustomed to them. Thought forms created are often erratic and temporary on lower astral levels (including dream states) which are thought responsive but with willpower are stable and usable in higher astral + mental areas.

 

[June]

Correct. Well spotted. It's a wilful thought form adapted from that book. We often travel in thought forms to express motion, like our own crafts or shape-shiftings, or flying through tunnels or from plane to plane, or globe to globe, or flying up although there is no real 'up' in the non-physical. We could also teleport with free will only without these tools. They are tools, metaphors adapted from culture surrounding us because we are accustomed to them. Thought forms created are often erratic and temporary on lower astral levels (including dream states) which are thought responsive but with willpower are stable and usable in higher astral + mental areas.

This is incredible, Sinera, I didn’t realise there could be so much to it, Thankyou for sharing.
Did it start off like this for you, or was the first time you actually left your vehicle, surprising, confusing, scary?
I would be so interested to know what the first time was like for all of you, as it might help those of us who are apprehensive.
I guess there are places that teach and guide how to do it, but to my knowledge I don’t have anything near me.

 

[CrystalSong]

Do you have to set a destination in mind before you head out? Or can you just "go for a walk" and end up anywhere by chance?

If I don't set a destination I seem to just project inside my own auric field or maybe the general room in which case all the crystals put on a fractual show. lol
So yeah, a destination is needed. Much like driving a car - with no destination you sit in your car in the drive way. A simple question or statement is usually enough like: 'take me to the nearest inhabited planet', "or lets go to the nearest starship in earth orbit, or let's head to the Dark Side of the moon and find a new entry point, Let's head to Saturn, or take me to a science ship in 6th dimensional earth orbit, let's head to a inhabited world of sentient Beings in the Orion Belt, or let's go find Nibaru (don't bother that one's not there, that query doesn't work, instead use "Annunaki Homeworld' Planet X doesn't work either.
If you don't get a landing change the question up. I tend to phrase things as Let's or we because I either go with other humans or travel with crystaline companions and Benevolent Beings.

 

[Anaeika]

Very interesting CrystalSong . Curious, what is the highest dimension you have traveled to and what it is like? What are the differences between them the higher you go?

 

[Carl]

We could also teleport with free will only without these tools.

Bingo! Some try to do the same in a different timeframe -past or future. It helps when traveling to the past to send positive energy to certain events -part of the healing process. Technically you can travel to the future to see the final outcome.

 

[CrystalSong]

Very interesting CrystalSong . Curious, what is the highest dimension you have traveled to and what it is like? What are the differences between them the higher you go?

There was a time, when I was first learning to OBE, that I saw amber colored bands between the dimensions and could count them.
When my Grandmother died of a stroke I was very concerned that maybe she'd get confused and not find her way 'into the Light'. So as soon as I heard she'd passed I dropped into meditation with the intention to follow in her 'etheric footprints' and make sure she got off safely and on the right track. First I popped into the hospital where she passed, found her room and saw an energy trail leading out into the hallway to the Nurses Station. It was so like her to stop and Thank everyone!

Then the trail shot straight through the ceiling of the hospital crossing an amber band as she left the 3rd dimension.
After a couple more amber bands she stopped in a desert place with these huge people dressed in what looked like ancient Sumerian clothing, they were about 15 feet tall and there were pyramid structures nearby. I remember thinking "so that's where the Sumerians went too, their 6th dimensional beings now!"
Grandmother was a Christian and every year read the Bible from cover to cover and she'd even got to go to Israel before she died - The Holy Land. However I'd never heard her express an interest in Sumerians at all. So this stop seemed odd to me. Why not stop and see the Hebrews or Egyptians?

Grandmas trail shot up a few more amber bands and she stopped to watch a sunset on some Alien World, then another band and she watched a sunset or sun rise o a very swamp-like world. It was misty and mysterious looking and beautiful. It was getting harder to see now, like the atoms on things were too far apart to make solid objects appear solid. each band we went up more light saturated the scenes and made detail harder and harder to see, everything was just getting washed out in light and energy.

From here, Grandma got down to serious business and just started rapidly flying into higher and higher dimensions, the amber bands went by quickly now. I counted approxmently 20. Suddenly the trail disappeared into a place which was pure white light - a White Out. I could tell her energy trail went on and she wasn't here but I couldn't tell where her energy trail went too or in what 'direction. The trail was lost in a White Out of Super High Frequency Energy. I was stopped in perplexion. Spirit and I just hung out there (Spirit meaning my Higher Self who I sensed with/in/around my consciousness.

Back in the 3rd dimension my bladder needed relief and I apologized to Spirit for having to leave to attend to it and promised to return. I stayed in a highly meditive state while relieving my bladder and then went straight back to bed dropping in quickly to run the energy trail again.
The amber bands flashed by in seconds, too fast to count this time and then to my surprise I was back in the White-Out Zone. There still wasn't a single detail in this bright luminous plane of energy and light. Thus zero information perceivable with the skill sets I had.
We were still unable to find Grandma's trail. Not knowing where to head I suggested to Spirit we return to the body again.

Side Note: Grandma used to always talk about being excited to 'Go Home' and 'Meet her Maker'. Meaning God the Creator.
All her family, parents, brothers, sisters, friends, first born child, husband and first born grandson had already crossed over. She lived to be 96 and knew more people across the veil than on this side. She wanted to 'Go Home' and had wanted to Go Home for nearly 25 years. A bit more every year as more and more friends died.
She said in the last years all she did was cook for funerals.
I found it weird she went and found the ancient Sumerians of all things and that they were so tall now. Very odd. This actually bugged me a bit for about 5 years - until I found Zechariah Sitchens translations of the Sumerian texts and discovered who the Makers were. lol But thats another story...
Someday I look forward to meeting Grandma and telling her I researched the 'Giant sized Sumerians' she stopped at and learned the story while still in body, thanks to her 'wanting to meet her Maker'.

 

[Sinera]

Did it start off like this for you, or was the first time you actually left your vehicle, surprising, confusing, scary?
I would be so interested to know what the first time was like for all of you, as it might help those of us who are apprehensive.

My 'first' time (voluntary, induced, after an involuntary one during a surgery) from November 2009 was posted on my blog in 2018 as a re-imported and slightly re-edited journal entry (from my now discontinued journal on Astral Dynamics forum):

https://astral-blog.weebly.com/blog/first-induced-obe-with-kundalini-symptoms


Note that this was an etheric OBE and that is why it was 'really' into the physical. Most projections are to the astral plane and you see the physical from there but also have reality fluctuations and it merges with 1) your instant thoughts and 2) other planes or alternate probable realities (or even past/future data). It is a chaotic and melting pot merging environment. That is why validations (proof) are very difficult to do from there (Remote Viewing is better suited for it).

However, in the blog entry of my first one, astral or mental projection was not the case, so goes my analysis later on. With that one OBE I was fully in the physical due to the etheric body (instead of astral or mental body) projection which was VERY heavy. Not with normal vibes but with inner kundalini snake movements along the torso/spine, which is kind of 'brutal' although it did not hurt.

Most OBEs / projections later into the 'physical' are then instead to the astral plane (hence: 'astral' projection) which has nothing directly to do with the physical at all or is just an energetic layer or copy of it corresponding in part. Still validations are possible from there since you get 'data' from the actual physical or can see parts of it due to the plane overlays, it's all 'mixed up', as explained above.

Mental (body) projections are the so-called higher areas and God/Essence/Source/Mystic experiences that are often hard to describe later on when 'back' because it vastly extends our human mind's capabilities.

Also -as I explained elsewhere here before- note that (etheric/astral/mental) OBE-AP differs from Remote Viewing, Vision Questing, some of the OBEs by Phasing (which is kind of projection but for me it's in-between RV and AP) and most of all the often very colourful channelled material. (But I will not go into this further anymore in this thread or forum.)

Just one more as a little teaser and then I am out of this thread because I think I said and posted enough. More will be found in my book.

Not yet tested Social Media and FB a lot but I'm also on Facebook now with my pseudonym, thought it is necessary as an author (to be): https://www.facebook.com/Sinera-Arenis-430374684366807/

Also will have a discussion group there (not yet started): https://www.facebook.com/groups/312629702730239/

So as an 'encore', here is the graph I made years ago (now a little re-edited for my book in English). It is now also in my book in the chapter 'Cosmology' which compares and aligns models of reality and the one I am using there (based mainly on Frank Kepple's great work), also in order to explain in the book's context where and how soul retrieval work takes place. It also explains the layers and incorporates the Void, too:

link: https://astral-blog.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/2/0/29200179/model-new_orig.jpg

But hey, gotta say: It's friggin cool, isn't it?

 

[June]

There was a time, when I was first learning to OBE, that I saw amber colored bands between the dimensions and could count them.
When my Grandmother died of a stroke I was very concerned that maybe she'd get confused and not find her way 'into the Light'. So as soon as I heard she'd passed I dropped into meditation with the intention to follow in her 'etheric footprints' and make sure she got off safely and on the right track. First I popped into the hospital where she passed, found her room and saw an energy trail leading out into the hallway to the Nurses Station. It was so like her to stop and Thank everyone!

Then the trail shot straight through the ceiling of the hospital crossing an amber band as she left the 3rd dimension.
After a couple more amber bands she stopped in a desert place with these huge people dressed in what looked like ancient Sumerian clothing, they were about 15 feet tall and there were pyramid structures nearby. I remember thinking "so that's where the Sumerians went too, their 6th dimensional beings now!"
Grandmother was a Christian and every year read the Bible from cover to cover and she'd even got to go to Israel before she died - The Holy Land. However I'd never heard her express an interest in Sumerians at all. So this stop seemed odd to me. Why not stop and see the Hebrews or Egyptians?

Grandmas trail shot up a few more amber bands and she stopped to watch a sunset on some Alien World, then another band and she watched a sunset or sun rise o a very swamp-like world. It was misty and mysterious looking and beautiful. It was getting harder to see now, like the atoms on things were too far apart to make solid objects appear solid. each band we went up more light saturated the scenes and made detail harder and harder to see, everything was just getting washed out in light and energy.

From here, Grandma got down to serious business and just started rapidly flying into higher and higher dimensions, the amber bands went by quickly now. I counted approxmently 20. Suddenly the trail disappeared into a place which was pure white light - a White Out. I could tell her energy trail went on and she wasn't here but I couldn't tell where her energy trail went too or in what 'direction. The trail was lost in a White Out of Super High Frequency Energy. I was stopped in perplexion. Spirit and I just hung out there (Spirit meaning my Higher Self who I sensed with/in/around my consciousness.

Back in the 3rd dimension my bladder needed relief and I apologized to Spirit for having to leave to attend to it and promised to return. I stayed in a highly meditive state while relieving my bladder and then went straight back to bed dropping in quickly to run the energy trail again.
The amber bands flashed by in seconds, too fast to count this time and then to my surprise I was back in the White-Out Zone. There still wasn't a single detail in this bright luminous plane of energy and light. Thus zero information perceivable with the skill sets I had.
We were still unable to find Grandma's trail. Not knowing where to head I suggested to Spirit we return to the body again.

Side Note: Grandma used to always talk about being excited to 'Go Home' and 'Meet her Maker'. Meaning God the Creator.
All her family, parents, brothers, sisters, friends, first born child, husband and first born grandson had already crossed over. She lived to be 96 and knew more people across the veil than on this side. She wanted to 'Go Home' and had wanted to Go Home for nearly 25 years. A bit more every year as more and more friends died.
She said in the last years all she did was cook for funerals.
I found it weird she went and found the ancient Sumerians of all things and that they were so tall now. Very odd. This actually bugged me a bit for about 5 years - until I found Zechariah Sitchens translations of the Sumerian texts and discovered who the Makers were. lol But thats another story...
Someday I look forward to meeting Grandma and telling her I researched the 'Giant sized Sumerians' she stopped at and learned the story while still in body, thanks to her 'wanting to meet her Maker'.

I like the sound of your grandma, that she took off and found some ancient giant Sumerian’s.
I also know what she meant by being excited about going home, I’ve felt the same for some time, not about god the creator, but you kno what I mean.

What you’ve experienced here is facinating, it must be wonderful to be able to travel in that way. Thankyou

 

[June]

My 'first' time (voluntary, induced, after an involuntary one during a surgery) from November 2009 was posted on my blog in 2018 as a re-imported and slightly re-edited journal entry (from my now discontinued journal on Astral Dynamics forum):

https://astral-blog.weebly.com/blog/first-induced-obe-with-kundalini-symptoms


Note that this was an etheric OBE and that is why it was 'really' into the physical. Most projections are to the astral plane and you see the physical from there but also have reality fluctuations and it merges with 1) your instant thoughts and 2) other planes or alternate probable realities (or even past/future data). It is a chaotic and melting pot merging environment. That is why validations (proof) are very difficult to do from there (Remote Viewing is better suited for it).

However, in the blog entry of my first one, astral or mental projection was not the case, so goes my analysis later on. With that one OBE I was fully in the physical due to the etheric body (instead of astral or mental body) projection which was VERY heavy. Not with normal vibes but with inner kundalini snake movements along the torso/spine, which is kind of 'brutal' although it did not hurt.

Most OBEs / projections later into the 'physical' are then instead to the astral plane (hence: 'astral' projection) which has nothing directly to do with the physical at all or is just an energetic layer or copy of it corresponding in part. Still validations are possible from there since you get 'data' from the actual physical or can see parts of it due to the plane overlays, it's all 'mixed up', as explained above.

Mental (body) projections are the so-called higher areas and God/Essence/Source/Mystic experiences that are often hard to describe later on when 'back' because it vastly extends our human mind's capabilities.

Also -as I explained elsewhere here before- note that (etheric/astral/mental) OBE-AP differs from Remote Viewing, Vision Questing, some of the OBEs by Phasing (which is kind of projection but for me it's in-between RV and AP) and most of all the often very colourful channelled material. (But I will not go into this further anymore in this thread or forum.)

Just one more as a little teaser and then I am out of this thread because I think I said and posted enough. More will be found in my book.

Not yet tested Social Media and FB a lot but I'm also on Facebook now with my pseudonym, thought it is necessary as an author (to be): https://www.facebook.com/Sinera-Arenis-430374684366807/

Also will have a discussion group there (not yet started): https://www.facebook.com/groups/312629702730239/

So as an 'encore', here is the graph I made years ago (now a little re-edited for my book in English). It is now also in my book in the chapter 'Cosmology' which compares and aligns models of reality and the one I am using there (based mainly on Frank Kepple's great work), also in order to explain in the book's context where and how soul retrieval work takes place. It also explains the layers and incorporates the Void, too:

link: https://astral-blog.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/2/0/29200179/model-new_orig.jpg

But hey, gotta say: It's friggin cool, isn't it?

Sinera, Thankyou for having the patience to explain all that to me, of course my brain has gone on strike.
I will have to read it over and over to be able to absorbe it, I had no idea there could be so much involved it must have taken years to learn so much, but I’m thinking that many travelers don’t go so far, I would be happy to experience a tiny bit of it.
So for now, I will keep projecting my mind through the wall, up and over the cemetery, and maybe a casual jaunt into town to start with, see where that gets me.

 

[Toller]

My biggest discovery on this topic was memories of having done this kind of thing before as a child.
They were forgotten memories of flying etc; and when I read something which reminded me of them I felt like slapping my palm to my forehead/facepalm once I realized that the memory had been sitting someplace inside me the whole time At the same time it was a really exciting thing to discover. It was here on this site that I read some description of out of body travel which triggered this memory. I also no longer recall which description of such travel it was, lol.

Yes, I can remember doing this when I was four years old. After my accident when I had just turned 5 never since. Though I suspect that I still do go out of body, eg. to the Remote Group healings, but I have no retained memory of doing same, just a clue that I was given last year.

 

[Alain]

If I don't set a destination I seem to just project inside my own auric field or maybe the general room in which case all the crystals put on a fractual show. lol
So yeah, a destination is needed. Much like driving a car - with no destination you sit in your car in the drive way. A simple question or statement is usually enough like: 'take me to the nearest inhabited planet', "or lets go to the nearest starship in earth orbit, or let's head to the Dark Side of the moon and find a new entry point, Let's head to Saturn, or take me to a science ship in 6th dimensional earth orbit, let's head to a inhabited world of sentient Beings in the Orion Belt, or let's go find Nibaru (don't bother that one's not there, that query doesn't work, instead use "Annunaki Homeworld' Planet X doesn't work either.
If you don't get a landing change the question up. I tend to phrase things as Let's or we because I either go with other humans or travel with crystaline companions and Benevolent Beings.

if the thing is right i read at a moment planet x is the sun where niburu or nuburu is on orbit, must be hot on that place

 

[Henda]

I've kind of come to believe I just wasn't able to dial my own frequency to the correct one needed for access. But actually have no idea though why I can't get back to places previously reached occasionally.

May be. But I know, and I don’t know how I do know this... I know that Stargates are under Extraterrestrials’ control.

 

[CrystalSong]

I suspect Sidereal Time has something to do with it as well Henda.