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Who does not recall the wonders of Dr. McCoy's medical tricorder and so many other marvelous medical treatments from the world of science fiction? There are nanotechnologies that can pinpoint tumors and artificial limbs have been designed to integrate with the nervous system.

There’s a bit of a blur here between what is already being deployed and what is still in the research phase, but the implication is clear: researchers are on the cusp of a radical shift in body/brain surveillance and manipulation.

Yet, what we get in our everyday lives is far from those wonders. As is the case of so many breakthroughs, some less lighted ones find a way to turn them against the greater good in the name of greater profits.

John Rappoport has a new article discussing these issues.

Technocracy is the engineering of civilization to make it resemble a machine in which all the parts fit. And that includes humans. It is the preferred method of Globalism-for-control.
In prior articles, I’ve detailed how Bill Gates, the World Economic Forum, and others are using the false pandemic as the rationale for leading the human race into a Brave New World. “The new normal.” “We can never go back to the way it was.” “We must have a borderless planet, global governance, and total surveillance, so we can detect epidemics more quickly and head them off before they become scourges…”
I’ve described ongoing research in nanotechnology, which would involve placing tiny sensors in the body and brain that report, in real time, physical indicators, leading to remote diagnoses of diseases and prescriptions for treatment.

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/06/19/technocracy-inside-your-body-not-science-fiction/
 
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Rather then artificial limbs how about activating the genes to grow back severed arms, legs or spinal columns. Grow new teeth repair cataracts, stop or drastically slow etc. Our bodies can do all those things and more. Let's develop those. I don't want machines to do that for me when I can do it all myself. Like my daughter said when she was growing out of infancy "I do myself" as she was learning new skills.
 

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We were "this" close to heading towards a Star Trek-type technology on an accelerated timeline.

The timeline fork would be Nicola Tesla's Wardenclyffe Towers project.

It was practically free energy, freely distributed across the Earth's surface using the Earth's atmosphere and magnetic field (sort of like those old bumper cars that used the electric web net on top to keep charge). This meant both free energy and free distribution. Imagine all cars and houses having one antenna line taking in electric energy, storing it in a battery capacitor in the garage 24/7.
Of course, it means no profits at all for the energy industry and the death of the oil industry (both of which during the industrial revolution, were the biggest money makers and economic titans). Westinghouse, Edison, and most important of all, JP Morgan, all saw the threat to their livelihoods (not to mention banks), and jointly destroyed the project and discredited Tesla. Edison used this situation to completely discredit DC electricity; hence we have light bulbs that break easily and AC electricity that has a tendency to overheat as well as lose 50-60% during long power transfers.

Imagine if we had free energy and free distribution. Think about how much advanced technology could have been invented by now and made with free energy. Practically every technology we have or could have built run into the same three problems: energy capacity, heat transfer, and degradation. DC electricity would have eliminated most of these problems (except for ICs, which will still have the heat transfer problem). Hence, we have ICE, gas cars, steam engines, wind turbines, solar panels (made of materials which are very damaging and polluting to the environment), transformers, power lines, etc.

With free distributed energy, the medical tricoder could conceivably have been invented around 20 years ago. Discovery of DNA and genetic sequencing would have been around 30-40 years ago, once electron microscopes are invented quickly. Even Ironman-like nuclear fission would have been invented back then, and we'd be running safe nuclear-propulsion space crafts right now.

We would have had worldwide WiFi 60-70 years ago instead of 10-15 years ago.

A lot of what-if's here with that free distributed energy timeline fork.

Surprised, but GIPHY has a gif of one of the Wardenclyffe Towers.
 

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I am re-reading Barbara Marciniak's "Family of Light". It's so on point for these times. In it, the Pleiadians say none of us realise how much tech is already designed and manufactured, but hidden away - it will really make our mouths drop open when it comes to light.
 

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Another book I read 2 years ago, Farside, by Ben Bova, has a plot twist in that nanotechnology is only allowed on the lunar surface of the Moon - in this near-future sci-fi novel it has already been banned to exist in anybody or in any machine on Earth. People who have been injected with it for health reasons are basically exiled to live in the colony on the near side of the Moon, and there are shenanigans aplenty regarding the building of an astronomical telescope on the far side of the Moon when one of the large curved mirrors cracks, and they want to use nanobot technology to rebuild the reflective glass surface.

It's almost as if Earth-based humanity were scared the nanotechnology could get out of somebody's bloodstream and infect others so there had to be a complete moratorium on it.
 
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Meanwhile, just up the road from me is a company working on Zenneck surface wave technology.

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Meanwhile, just up the road from me is a company working on Zenneck surface wave technology.

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I just read up on the project. Just a "renamed" version of Tesla's project. Now that we are into "sustainable" energy, this project is politically viable. Tesla was just too far ahead of his time.
Whether it succeeds or not is another question. Oil and electric utility conglomerates (Con Edison, Edison Intl, etc.) will definitely fight against this, as it makes their massive infrastructure investments completely moot, i.e. zero revenues/profits.
 
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I am re-reading Barbara Marciniak's "Family of Light". It's so on point for these times. In it, the Pleiadians say none of us realise how much tech is already designed and manufactured, but hidden away - it will really make our mouths drop open when it comes to light.
Melt, u r aware that Laron had talked about the "breakaway civilization" on here many years ago. It is similar to Stargate SG-1, where a certain elite or black ops Pentagon project live in a bubble of their own, interacting with alien civilizations like "MIB", and have access to technology that is 1000-2000 years ahead of where we are now (similar to MIB, SG1, Star Trek, etc.). They are also accused of having space habitats like "Elysium" or "Rama", even a complete metro city on the far side of the moon. Also, they have cloaking and jamming technology far beyond anything Earth has, so it is plausible they can remain invisible forever. There are some deleted pictures/footage on the web from NASA that show airbrushed landscapes of the far side of the moon. Once you digitally "clean" them, you can see outlines of buildings, skyscrapers, and huge spaceships like the Daedalus in SG1. 1-mile tall skyscrapers, huge circular cities that can fly just like SG1 Atlantis, etc.

There was an incident some 5-15 years ago, when the Chinese government boasted about catching up to American military might. At the time, one of the Chinese generals was on a diplomatic visit in DC, and boasted about their capabilities and the "fact" they were going to catch up to the US within 10 years.

So.... tired of the bravado, one of Pentagon's attaches decided to give him a secret tour of Area 51. When the group went there and saw the technology and weapon arsenal available (TR3 is one such project - imagine SG1 and Star Trek type ships/ion cannons/phaser torpedoes/hyperspace travel), the black ops team gave the group a test run of some of the technology. Needless to say, the Chinese general was flabbergasted, jaws down to the floor, crestfallen. After the tour, the Chinese group left completely shocked and crestfallen, and completely silent (don't forget, Area 51 definitely had transporter beam technology that could beam people up without warning, like SG1 and Star Trek), and the Chinese group went back to their country with tails between their legs, but could not speak about any of it for fear of being branded "crazy" or being "beamed up" to oblivion.
 
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Melt, u r aware that Laron had talked about the "breakaway civilization" on here many years ago. It is similar to Stargate SG-1, where a certain elite or black ops Pentagon project live in a bubble of their own, interacting with alien civilizations like "MIB", and have access to technology that is 1000-2000 years ahead of where we are now (similar to MIB, SG1, Star Trek, etc.). They are also accused of having space habitats like "Elysium" or "Rama", even a complete metro city on the far side of the moon. Also, they have cloaking and jamming technology far beyond anything Earth has, so it is plausible they can remain invisible forever. There are some deleted pictures/footage on the web from NASA that show airbrushed landscapes of the far side of the moon. Once you digitally "clean" them, you can see outlines of buildings, skyscrapers, and huge spaceships like the Daedalus in SG1. 1-mile tall skyscrapers, huge circular cities that can fly just like SG1 Atlantis, etc.

There was an incident some 5-15 years ago, when the Chinese government boasted about catching up to American military might. At the time, one of the Chinese generals was on a diplomatic visit in DC, and boasted about their capabilities and the "fact" they were going to catch up to the US within 10 years.

So.... tired of the bravado, one of Pentagon's attaches decided to give him a secret tour of Area 51. When the group went there and saw the technology and weapon arsenal available (TR3 is one such project - imagine SG1 and Star Trek type ships/ion cannons/phaser torpedoes/hyperspace travel), the black ops team gave the group a test run of some of the technology. Needless to say, the Chinese general was flabbergasted, jaws down to the floor, crestfallen. After the tour, the Chinese group left completely shocked and crestfallen, and completely silent (don't forget, Area 51 definitely had transporter beam technology that could beam people up without warning, like SG1 and Star Trek), and the Chinese group went back to their country with tails between their legs, but could not speak about any of it for fear of being branded "crazy" or being "beamed up" to oblivion.
That's an interesting anecdote about the Chinese officials' visit to US. (There's a lot of boasting and braggadocio between culture cohorts). I simply don't believe the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) could be the organisation that initiates, inspires and innovates creative outcomes for their population. I think it is well recognised by now in hindsight that the motivation for creativity cannot be had by beating people into submission, or by threats. Also not by trying to get people to conform their thinking to that of everyone else. It is often the misfits, or those with a larger view that is not cognate to the average intellect that can take the leap into creative thinking.

I have to laugh because Australian universities at the moment are suffering loss of income due to COVID-19 restrictions on international students (and also because we pooh-poohed and blamed China for the release of the virus from their Wuhan lab) - and their response is to decrease tuition fees for STEM subjects, but double tuition fees for Humanities courses starting next year. Don't they understand that holding the broader perspective is where creativity starts? You can't be creative and innovative if you're told what to think - or believe that someone knows better than you, so you should think like them.

(Spoken like a true, uneducated rebel - which I am).
 

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Melt, although education and culture spur creativity, the cruel reality is in the history of civilizations, humanities and arts have always flourished in times of stability and peace, never in times of extreme competition and instability.
Civilization has always been built on the foundation of tools and weapons. Look at Stone Age, Bronze Age, Iron Age, etc. Look at the history of Europe. How many years did humanities and philosophy flourish? Relatively, not much. Renaissance, Enlightenment, Age of Greece. The rest are filled with conquests, wars, wall building, infrastructure - security.

We are in the beginning of one such period now. Economic imbalances have created a technology gap that many countries are missing, now that everyone is trying to produce their own technology due to deglobalization.
Australia and most of Europe have been slacking off both technology and military spending, relying on US for military might, and China for COTS technology. Covid19 and China's 2025 programme woke everyone up, realizing that if all manufacturing were controlled by China, it would bully everyone else into submission. Australia and Europe are currently in a rush to develop an engineering workforce to accommodate local industrial expansions - i.e. mini-Silicon Valley and mini-El Segundo, CA (home to Raytheon, Boeing Satellite, TRW, as well as facilities for Northrop Grumman, McDonnell Douglas, Martin Marietta all within a 100-mile radius).

Of course, China is now in rapid decline. Plagues are ravaging its food stock, and there is now imminent danger that the Three Gorges Dam will break, drowning an area of 600M people and splitting the country in two (Shanghai is right in the crosshairs). We might be able to see the myth of the Great Flood in real time soon.
Foreign conglomerates and businesses are leaving in droves, leaving behind a humongous 200M employment gap that is growing every day.
Some cities are resorting to night markets to feed their masses, leaving behind a huge trail of carcasses in commercial buildings and property. Rent of all kinds are not being paid at all (simply no money, not legal mandate like CA). The top three property management and construction conglomerates in China are all bankrupt and in the CCP's receivership (i.e., the Communist party owns them). Imagine if 60-70% of your countries's malls and offices were owned by the government.

And as far as the military story, you are taking the wrong lesson from this one. The real lesson is that the US, because of access to alien technology for decades (Roswell crash is the only publicly known source), is 1000s of years ahead. Sort of like you picking up a tennis racquet and playing Ashleigh Barty in a five set match now. China (or any other country for that matter) has no chance at all, and no hope in catching up.

Kelly Johnson of Skunk Works division (SR-71 Blackbird is one of their most successful projects) admitted in a private interview that US never developed any new technology during the 50s-70s; most, including the nascent rise of IC chips (by Intel), were built from reverse engineering alien technology or getting engineering know-how directly from aliens (similar to SG1's technology transfer from the Asgards). Basically, it was impossible to suddenly create IC chips or supersonic aircraft without alien know-how (the stealth, radar-absorbing black paint is one example).

Here's another tidbit that transients people here will appreciate.
Advanced technology was not just obtained from aliens physically through reverse engineering or direct tutelage; advanced technology was also obtained through meditations and OBEs. Stanford's SRI top-secret psychic StarGate and RV programs were part of this program. Some were able to obtain uber advanced technology schematics and instructions through OBE/astral travel to the Pleiades or Zeta Reticuli, for instance.

Even with current publicly-known military technology, with the Ford-class carriers, F35/F22, and advanced drones (plus the advanced ICs designed in the US to support these advanced systems), the Chinese military brass and engineering class have privately acknowledged that with the IC and engineering cutoffs, they are hopelessly 50 years behind the US in military might.
Never gonna happen now.

We are on the edge of Star Wars/Star Trek type battles, as laser weapons are starting to become common on ships and planes, that's just public knowledge.
As said above, privately and black ops, US has Star Trek, Star Wars, SG1, Gundam, MIB, StarCraft type technologies that will trump anything out there. Basically, US can overturn MAD doctrine by itself alone as these crafts can just beam up nuclear/hypersonic missiles and block them with plasma shields.
That's if the US elites are willing to make all that alien technology public.

Forget the hype of hypersonic weapons, lol. MAD still applies here - if any of the countries ever use hypersonic missiles, retaliation will be swift and complete. Asymmetric warfare still applies.
 
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Melt, although education and culture spur creativity, the cruel reality is in the history of civilizations, humanities and arts have always flourished in times of stability and peace, never in times of extreme competition and instability.
Civilization has always been built on the foundation of tools and weapons. Look at Stone Age, Bronze Age, Iron Age, etc. Look at the history of Europe. How many years did humanities and philosophy flourish? Relatively, not much. Renaissance, Enlightenment, Age of Greece. The rest are filled with conquests, wars, wall building, infrastructure - security.

We are in the beginning of one such period now. Economic imbalances have created a technology gap that many countries are missing, now that everyone is trying to produce their own technology due to deglobalization.
Australia and most of Europe have been slacking off both technology and military spending, relying on US for military might, and China for COTS technology. Covid19 and China's 2025 programme woke everyone up, realizing that if all manufacturing were controlled by China, it would bully everyone else into submission. Australia and Europe are currently in a rush to develop an engineering workforce to accommodate local industrial expansions - i.e. mini-Silicon Valley and mini-El Segundo, CA (home to Raytheon, Boeing Satellite, TRW, as well as facilities for Northrop Grumman, McDonnell Douglas, Martin Marietta all within a 100-mile radius).

Of course, China is now in rapid decline. Plagues are ravaging its food stock, and there is now imminent danger that the Three Gorges Dam will break, drowning an area of 600M people and splitting the country in two (Shanghai is right in the crosshairs). We might be able to see the myth of the Great Flood in real time soon.
Foreign conglomerates and businesses are leaving in droves, leaving behind a humongous 200M employment gap that is growing every day.
Some cities are resorting to night markets to feed their masses, leaving behind a huge trail of carcasses in commercial buildings and property. Rent of all kinds are not being paid at all (simply no money, not legal mandate like CA). The top three property management and construction conglomerates in China are all bankrupt and in the CCP's receivership (i.e., the Communist party owns them). Imagine if 60-70% of your countries's malls and offices were owned by the government.

And as far as the military story, you are taking the wrong lesson from this one. The real lesson is that the US, because of access to alien technology for decades (Roswell crash is the only publicly known source), is 1000s of years ahead. Sort of like you picking up a tennis racquet and playing Ashleigh Barty in a five set match now. China (or any other country for that matter) has no chance at all, and no hope in catching up.

Kelly Johnson of Skunk Works division (SR-71 Blackbird is one of their most successful projects) admitted in a private interview that US never developed any new technology during the 50s-70s; most, including the nascent rise of IC chips (by Intel), were built from reverse engineering alien technology or getting engineering know-how directly from aliens (similar to SG1's technology transfer from the Asgards). Basically, it was impossible to suddenly create IC chips or supersonic aircraft without alien know-how (the stealth, radar-absorbing black paint is one example).

Here's another tidbit that transients people here will appreciate.
Advanced technology was not just obtained from aliens physically through reverse engineering or direct tutelage; advanced technology was also obtained through meditations and OBEs. Stanford's SRI top-secret psychic StarGate and RV programs were part of this program. Some were able to obtain uber advanced technology schematics and instructions through OBE/astral travel to the Pleiades or Zeta Reticuli, for instance.

Even with current publicly-known military technology, with the Ford-class carriers, F35/F22, and advanced drones (plus the advanced ICs designed in the US to support these advanced systems), the Chinese military brass and engineering class have privately acknowledged that with the IC and engineering cutoffs, they are hopelessly 50 years behind the US in military might.
Never gonna happen now.

We are on the edge of Star Wars/Star Trek type battles, as laser weapons are starting to become common on ships and planes, that's just public knowledge.
As said above, privately and black ops, US has Star Trek, Star Wars, SG1, Gundam, MIB, StarCraft type technologies that will trump anything out there. Basically, US can overturn MAD doctrine by itself alone as these crafts can just beam up nuclear/hypersonic missiles and block them with plasma shields.
That's if the US elites are willing to make all that alien technology public.

Forget the hype of hypersonic weapons, lol. MAD still applies here - if any of the countries ever use hypersonic missiles, retaliation will be swift and complete. Asymmetric warfare still applies.
Kevin, but what about training the human minds that use such advanced technologies stemming from cultures beyond this world?
 
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I was going to post this later but will do it now. Interesting video.

I lost energy towards the end as having said our DNA has been tampered with, we are stuck in 3D etc (which I agree with) he then said it is our responsibility . So I feel he is scared and towards the end is trying to frighten people into waking up. People will wake up in their own time.

But some VERY interesting information.


 

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Kevin, but what about training the human minds that use such advanced technologies stemming from cultures beyond this world?
Not the current iteration.
Most universities are training liberal idiots.

You are talking about humanities and philosophy as taught in original content 20-40 years ago.
If you are talking about the following:
Philosophies of Socrates, Kant, Nietzsche, Machiavelli, Aristotle, Descartes, Rousseau, Sartre, Plato... and
the moralities of Thoreau, Mill, Confucius, Meng Zi, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Locke...
technology ethics of Philip K. Dick, Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World", "Necromancer", etc.....
then ok, I agree with you.

Unfortunately, today's liberal arts and humanities "professors" have twisted everything ass backwards. Equality = diversity, morality = mob rule.
So basically, they are conflating militant Marx, socialism, communism and nihilism with freedom and equality.
Che Guevara guerilla mentality to the max.

What these stupid idiots don't understand is it requires free energy and unlimited resources (a la Star Trek world) in order to have true communism by Marx's intent.

Instead, what we have is Alexander Solzhenitsyn's "Gulag Archipelago", Bolshevik Revolution, Stalinism, Leninism, Maoism, Pol Pot. We are seeing that in real-time. Destroying cultural and historical artifacts. Labeling everything offensive. Violent riots.
The next thing is the destruction of education. The insane stupidity is these groups ANTIFA/BLM now advocate destroying STEM education because it is 'racist'!
Hahahahahaha.....

We are seeing the Red Scare in Chinese Communism and the Stalin's purge in display.

Just look at what these stupid professors keep protesting. They are calling everything "white privilege", and the need for more "diversity", or even
hamburgers are "offensive" and promote "racial hate". Here in CA, they are tearing down meritocracy where college applications will be required to admit certain % of what population, even if their SATs and grades suck... as long as they are poor, downtrodden, and colored - they will get into Stanford and Harvard no problem.
Asians will be undermined since they "overachieved". Basically a perfect SAT and perfect grades will not get you into Harvard now.
Asinine things like this.... and it is just escalating.

Someone needs to put these pouting immature children on their heels and tell them to stop.

At least Seattle's mayor has somewhat waken from her drunken stupor and realized what she has enabled when two shooting deaths occurred in CHAZ. She is dismantling CHAZ and reinstating police force!

Defund the police.....
And these are liberal arts and humanities people....

So.. Now that you see what's really going on, do you still support humanities and liberal arts in its current state?

I 1000000% don't. I will support it IF it returns back to the original state as I indicated in the beginning of this post.
 
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So.. Now that you see what's really going on, do you still support humanities and liberal arts in its current state?
You feel better for getting that off your chest Kevin C?
 

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How many years did humanities and philosophy flourish? Relatively, not much. Renaissance, Enlightenment, Age of Greece. The rest are filled with conquests, wars, wall building, infrastructure - security.
While I generally would agree on the long dark eons and eras there were always pockets of light in certain areas over certain time spans (and if only decades) in all parts of the world.

What do we really know about our history and the many hidden civilisations of which only a few archeological finds and many speculations and myths exist? How about the 'Golden Age' (Satya-Yuga for the Hindus) long before the Greeks, many thousands of years. What about Atlantis or Lemuria/Mu (before both of them went downhill of course)?

Or take a look at Gobekli Tepe right now which happened as a holy site and then was burried many thousands years ago. (Farsight says it was aliens' influence too though, see my recent thread there. Don't know if it is true, I remain a bit skeptical of them recently.).

And also the Middle Ages (the so called 'dark ages') certainly had their flourishing parts here and there which 'official' history does not recognise or highlight. Here is a 'different' view by Frank Stoner whose 'broken' English is still quite acceptable and accessible I believe (and hope, I saw the German version a year ago, now only saw he made a few more English vids for international audiences):



From the description:

Often, we modern people speak of the medieval times in an airy way. The era is a synonym for superstition, poverty, harsh and dirty living conditions. But already a glimpse on the buildings and monuments of the time makes one challenge this prejudice. The beauty and sublimity of gothic cathredrals tell a different story. And then there's numerous civic constructions like rich town-halls, bridges or wells, etc. At close review, we discover a 300-year-long booming growth in trade, architecture, handcraft and culture. The engine of this unprecedented growth might be found in the economic system of the era, which followed the female principle. The so called Renovatio Monetarum, the renewal of the money, is de facto a negative interest rate, and brought people to let their money flow in circulation, instead of stock-piling a treasure. Is there really no alternative to our current money system, as they always say? A fresh, though maybe a little romatic, view on the gothic man an his unrecognized epoch.
 

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Not the current iteration.
Most universities are training liberal idiots.

You are talking about humanities and philosophy as taught in original content 20-40 years ago.
If you are talking about the following:
Philosophies of Socrates, Kant, Nietzsche, Machiavelli, Aristotle, Descartes, Rousseau, Sartre, Plato... and
the moralities of Thoreau, Mill, Confucius, Meng Zi, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Locke...
technology ethics of Philip K. Dick, Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World", "Necromancer", etc.....
then ok, I agree with you.

Unfortunately, today's liberal arts and humanities "professors" have twisted everything ass backwards. Equality = diversity, morality = mob rule.
So basically, they are conflating militant Marx, socialism, communism and nihilism with freedom and equality.
Che Guevara guerilla mentality to the max.

What these stupid idiots don't understand is it requires free energy and unlimited resources (a la Star Trek world) in order to have true communism by Marx's intent.

Instead, what we have is Alexander Solzhenitsyn's "Gulag Archipelago", Bolshevik Revolution, Stalinism, Leninism, Maoism, Pol Pot. We are seeing that in real-time. Destroying cultural and historical artifacts. Labeling everything offensive. Violent riots.
The next thing is the destruction of education. The insane stupidity is these groups ANTIFA/BLM now advocate destroying STEM education because it is 'racist'!
Hahahahahaha.....

We are seeing the Red Scare in Chinese Communism and the Stalin's purge in display.

Just look at what these stupid professors keep protesting. They are calling everything "white privilege", and the need for more "diversity", or even
hamburgers are "offensive" and promote "racial hate". Here in CA, they are tearing down meritocracy where college applications will be required to admit certain % of what population, even if their SATs and grades suck... as long as they are poor, downtrodden, and colored - they will get into Stanford and Harvard no problem.
Asians will be undermined since they "overachieved". Basically a perfect SAT and perfect grades will not get you into Harvard now.
Asinine things like this.... and it is just escalating.

Someone needs to put these pouting immature children on their heels and tell them to stop.

At least Seattle's mayor has somewhat waken from her drunken stupor and realized what she has enabled when two shooting deaths occurred in CHAZ. She is dismantling CHAZ and reinstating police force!

Defund the police.....
And these are liberal arts and humanities people....

So.. Now that you see what's really going on, do you still support humanities and liberal arts in its current state?

I 1000000% don't. I will support it IF it returns back to the original state as I indicated in the beginning of this post.
I am disconnected from the woke mentality. I left school at 15 and everything I know has been by hard work and experience. I am struggling with bringing up a 20 year old daughter, so there is frustration for ignorance and sheer wilfulness. I understand the picture you give out above, it really is like that, but I am not personally connected to it. In fact, I can't get a job because my skills are too old school. Good, solid skills, but old school. And those old school jobs have disappeared, anyway. I really am just treading water and waiting in place, when people will once again need a person like me.

It is insane, what you describe, and it is everywhere, not just the U.S. People need to breathe deeply, sit back and let some moments pass, then start from the foundation up. Build everything up again from a stable foundation, as all these edifices that are touted today are made of wishful thinking and sand - that will run down a hole, in time.
 
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I have no personal experience with the ultra-liberal college students, although I certainly see them in the protest and riot videos. I do have experience with high school kids - those who live on farms understand how to work, the others - well, not so much. However, some of them eventually do figure out that their actions have far-reaching effects. Somehow, that info just did not get through in their earlier years. Oh, then I hear from high school teachers - what a flaming mess. There is a small group of kids who really do want to learn. However, the others - again - not so much. Interestingly, their parents make excuse after excuse - anything other than look in the mirror.

My solution (which has not changed for 20 years) - spend some time working on a farm or ranch - see how you really fit in. Rule one - the animals come first. It does not matter how tired you are - how cold - how hot - the animals depend on us, and we, on them. After a bit, you understand the flow of nature and how you fit in. And with that, I relinquish the soap box.
 
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While I generally would agree on the long dark eons and eras there were always pockets of light in certain areas over certain time spans (and if only decades) in all parts of the world.

What do we really know about our history and the many hidden civilisations of which only a few archeological finds and many speculations and myths exist? How about the 'Golden Age' (Satya-Yuga for the Hindus) long before the Greeks, many thousands of years. What about Atlantis or Lemuria/Mu (before both of them went downhill of course)?

Or take a look at Gobekli Tepe right now which happened as a holy site and then was burried many thousands years ago. (Farsight says it was aliens' influence too though, see my recent thread there. Don't know if it is true, I remain a bit skeptical of them recently.).

And also the Middle Ages (the so called 'dark ages') certainly had their flourishing parts here and there which 'official' history does not recognise or highlight. Here is a 'different' view by Frank Stoner whose 'broken' English is still quite acceptable and accessible I believe (and hope, I saw the German version a year ago, now only saw he made a few more English vids for international audiences):



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Sinera, that is what I have alluded to in previous posts. There are instances and astral travels that civilizations have flourished eons ago, that we are in the 7th such age of civilization. However, if you look at geologic time, you will realize that the time of civilizations across 100k-1M+ years is short in percentage - something even less than our current "3000-4000" year period's percentage of peace (in this case, something like 200 years, someone will need to tabulate Greek philosophy, Renaissance, Enlightenment, current period of 50 years minus years of war, lol)...
I recall there was an article many years ago on alternative history, and it said the percentage of civilization across geologic time is ~0.01%. The reality is that Earth changes due to asteroids, solar flares, pole shifts, etc. is so immense that life requires Goldilocks ("perfect") conditions to flourish and thrive. Even the current climate is part of such a Goldilocks period - looking at geologic records super cold "Ice Ages" are the norm for Earth over 100k-1M+ year time periods.

Linda, even if they spent time on the farm, if they go back to college for the liberal "indoctrination" shit, they will still be brainwashed into faux Che Guevarra mob mentality. It's incredible how whiny the generation is. Everyone expects a "participation" trophy just for showing up. Sigh....

And the damage is real - pension funds across the world that are supposed to be ultraconservative since they are "pensioner's money" (let's forget the ponzi scheme math for now...), are being forced to go PC by dumping extremely lucrative (but socially unappealing) businesses (think tobacco, oil, electrical utilities, gas cars, guns) and focusing on PC businesses that are money-losing (social justice apps, green energy, environmentally free "flowery words" businesses). Now they are losing money like throwing trash in these junk investments, they are resorting to exotic and risky gambles such as leveraged options and futures to make back their "base" returns (Calpers 7%, many others 5%, none of which has ever been consistently made - they just got lucky for a few years of 10-15%, so the net is still -5-10% due to mega losses from 2000, 2008, 2011, and now). Don't forget with the current global lockdowns, all these pension funds got almost zero contributions, and are still paying out insane pensions for the fat cats at the top and the gamers (there are lists of 100k-500k/year pensioners for liberal states CA, Illinois, DC, NY, MA - not sure about other countries that are costing these states some 10-50B a year).
 

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I have no personal experience with the ultra-liberal college students, although I certainly see them in the protest and riot videos. I do have experience with high school kids - those who live on farms understand how to work, the others - well, not so much. However, some of them eventually do figure out that their actions have far-reaching effects. Somehow, that info just did not get through in their earlier years. Oh, then I hear from high school teachers - what a flaming mess. There is a small group of kids who really do want to learn. However, the others - again - not so much. Interestingly, their parents make excuse after excuse - anything other than look in the mirror.

My solution (which has not changed for 20 years) - spend some time working on a farm or ranch - see how you really fit in. Rule one - the animals come first. It does not matter how tired you are - how cold - how hot - the animals depend on us, and we, on them. After a bit, you understand the flow of nature and how you fit in. And with that, I relinquish the soap box.
Well, I'm glad to say my daughter did clean out her fish tank yesterday, on my recommendation. Although there was resistance to start with! And what a beautiful job she did of it too, for that one fish!
 
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I was going to post this later but will do it now. Interesting video.

I lost energy towards the end as having said our DNA has been tampered with, we are stuck in 3D etc (which I agree with) he then said it is our responsibility . So I feel he is scared and towards the end is trying to frighten people into waking up. People will wake up in their own time.

But some VERY interesting information.


Thanks for posting, Pod. Normally this is a presentation we would not access, due to it being presented in Warsaw, Poland, the first language of the presenter is German, he speaks in English (quite well) and there is a translator present who translates the whole thing into Polish as it moves along. Not for the faint-hearted! But I have an ear for language, and I actually enjoyed listening to the whole translation with the 3 languages going on simultaneously.

As Pod says, some good information, especially touching on historical/changed history from Europe and Mary Magdalene and her time spent in France, and influences from Konstantin onwards (Turkey / Istanbul / Constantinople - Hagia Sophia church, etc). As always, what is presented is only a perspective, but with many points resounding with Truth. Harald Thiers also points the finger at Cobra, Corey Goode and David Wilcock as disinformation sources.

He mentions about the Hidden Hand, and Draco rule etc, 2012 being the end of a galactic contract and dark and light forces fighting each other on a galactic scale to either re-issue the contract or to overcome it and not have any contract putting people (human and non-human alike) into submission, as it has been throughout the duration of the previous contract.

I find it interesting he talks of horned beings (Draco) who have had representatives on Earth (hybrid descendants) in positions of power over the main populations. I immediately thought of Pindar, who has been removed from Earth dimension about 3-4 years ago (ties in with the 2012 end of contract date).

I think there is a distinction between Draco dragon beings and the ancient race of dragon creators that were present hundreds of thousands of years ago. In "The Family of Light" channelled by Barbara Marciniak 1998 from the Pleiades, there are many references to this ancient creator race, for e.g. p 215-6 and p 224

See if you can imagine a time in the annals of existence, where the great reptiles, the legendary lizards and dragons, exist in cohabitation with you, a time when you were not being pillaged and conquered, or a time when you were not ignoring them or hiding in fear. Imagine a slice of time that shows you the potential of combining your skills and working together as exquisite creators. The legendary lizard mind is an exquisite creator, and in the Book of Existence and even in the Book of Earth, many tales tell of their deeds. As you seek to know yourself, go back to the most primordial source - the original creators - the most ambiguous, hidden, ancient elder ones - existing in what appears to be a non-existent slice of time; a nanosecond, yet it is there in between your moments, in a place tucked away in the voids of time, but certainly full of landscapes of richness, is where these legendary lizards dwell. They now offer you a frequency - as if they were suddenly on the radio with their own show - a frequency they feel you can comprehend. They want you to remember them as magnificent creatures and allies, not as beasts to fear, but rather as friends who taught you to fly and travelled with you from one place to another, who were at your beck and call, because to them you were so magnificent, they simply loved you.
You are resilient beings programmed eons and eons ago, and the ancient ones held their battles and fought through space for you. Feel into the unfathomable depths of space where something very ancient dwells, where forces beyond human - or beyond any form - can produce form and seem so intelligent and massive that you would consider yourself an insignificant insect next to them. Yet you are a result of their creations, and the creator cannot be separated from its creations. No matter how humble you may appear to the power of this intelligence, you are, nonetheless, encapsulated in its whole.
Harald Thiers, the presenter, says he now knows, through life confirmations, that his star-soul group is the Pleiades. As he is so down on dragons (Draco) perhaps he hasn't read some of the Marciniak material. The extended picture is always bigger than we can imagine.
 
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Harald Thiers also points the finger at Cobra, Corey Goode and David Wilcock as disinformation sources.

Oh well done Melt. You beat me to it! I will enlarge on it for those who can't stand the process of the presentation. I speak German and like you enjoy listening to languages..........

Yes, he was clear on Cobra, Corey Goode and David Wilcock. I have never felt drawn to them. He was also very clear on NOT being involved in mass meditations until you are sure you know where your energy is going! Who is it feeding.

He did say that Hilary Clinton was dead. He did say that Alex Jones is a Mossad agent.

I have a Dragon friend called Oliver who as been a protector for many years. I know he is benevolent and powerful so I am also aware of dragon beings who are NOT part of the Draco takeover. And look at Henda's dragons.

I downloaded the video and will watch it again and list the important points for people. But you did a great job Melt.
 
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Rather then artificial limbs how about activating the genes to grow back severed arms, legs or spinal columns.
Companies want artificial limbs because artificial limbs create an income stream, they will need to be serviced and sometimes replaced, and sometimes upgraded. Growing a limb back is a one time sale, not an income stream.

I believe that Tesla's Wardenclyffe tower used "atmospheric energy". I was intrigued so I did some research. Some people on Youtube have tried it, and it does work, but it's not useful at this point. But here some problems I thought of.
  1. On a single 100ft copper wire 100ft in the air, it only generates 100vac and 2 microamps.
  2. You would need thousands of these wires on a tower just to power a single LED light. That means the tower would be expensive, as copper has been going up in price over the last 10 years. That means a large tower is needed for a single house. If I don't use a certified installer to install PV panels on my roof, that voids my roof warranty, which I paid extra for. Some US states actually ban solar power!
  3. The tower might cost $10000-20000usd. 90% of people don't have that money. Whole-house photovoltaic systems cost roughly the same, that's a big reason it isn't more popular.
  4. The tower might need a bit more land. Many people don't have room on their property for that, me included.
  5. The tower might violate local laws and would be called "an eyesore".

So there are still several major hurdles to get this going.
 
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Oh well done Melt. You beat me to it! I will enlarge on it for those who can't stand the process of the presentation. I speak German and like you enjoy listening to languages..........

Yes, he was clear on Cobra, Corey Goode and David Wilcock. I have never felt drawn to them. He was also very clear on NOT being involved in mass meditations until you are sure you know where your energy is going! Who is it feeding.

He did say that Hilary Clinton was dead. He did say that Alex Jones is a Mossad agent.

I have a Dragon friend called Oliver who as been a protector for many years. I know he is benevolent and powerful so I am also aware of dragon beings who are NOT part of the Draco takeover. And look at Henda's dragons.

I downloaded the video and will watch it again and list the important points for people. But you did a great job Melt.
I clairvoyantly saw a gold dragon in a meditation (briefly) but quite detailed, the type without wings, i.e. a celestial dragon, and a psychic confirmed to me 2 days later that she saw a white and a gold dragon behind me (with me). Therefore, when I say "my dragons" I just mean the ones I am linked with. For me, they are energy beings, but within that energy there is a colour and a form, which can be seen psychically. I've always assumed if I have them, everyone does. We do have the reptilian brain stem, after all.

The horned being (goat) that Christians call the Devil is what I believe to be Jehovah or Yahweh, meaning an astral entity, powerful and a combination of light and dark, which is why he is so attractive to some. The other winged, scaly creatures that we have seen depicted in movies, especially Jupiter Rising, are what the real Draco look like. Then there are the Nagas (snakes), all described in detail in Hindu texts, and are meant to be from the 2nd dimension, I think. Then we have to think of the constellations they come from. Serpens, Ophiuchus, and Draco itself. I think the star Thuban is their home world. Thuban was the North Pole Star from Earth's perspective a couple of millenium ago. And some come from Bootes, I think.
 

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While I generally would agree on the long dark eons and eras there were always pockets of light in certain areas over certain time spans (and if only decades) in all parts of the world.

What do we really know about our history and the many hidden civilisations of which only a few archeological finds and many speculations and myths exist? How about the 'Golden Age' (Satya-Yuga for the Hindus) long before the Greeks, many thousands of years. What about Atlantis or Lemuria/Mu (before both of them went downhill of course)?

Or take a look at Gobekli Tepe right now which happened as a holy site and then was burried many thousands years ago. (Farsight says it was aliens' influence too though, see my recent thread there. Don't know if it is true, I remain a bit skeptical of them recently.).

And also the Middle Ages (the so called 'dark ages') certainly had their flourishing parts here and there which 'official' history does not recognise or highlight. Here is a 'different' view by Frank Stoner whose 'broken' English is still quite acceptable and accessible I believe (and hope, I saw the German version a year ago, now only saw he made a few more English vids for international audiences):



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I loved this guy, his presentation and his dreadlocks! Smart, knowledgeable and aware - and gets his points across because he believes in what he is saying. The video offers an alternative view of a specific time (Hanseatic League across the more northern parts of Germany and what were Germanic countries (not following the borders of today), a time of 300 years which came to an abrupt close with the arrival of the Black Death - a kind of crossing point. Somewhere we might be at today. He also offers an alternative view of economy which we could consider if we are setting our intentions for a future way of being.
 

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Sophia Love has a channel from June 22nd, 24th and 26th that exactly describes what we have been talking about: the arrival of the Progenitors (beings that preceded us and that created us) in helping Humanity here on Earth to understand the limitations that were drawn down on us by the Annunaki (I include Draco beings with their group because I think the Annunaki were serpents or reptiles with shape shifting abilities, and they are known only as those who from the sky came). I think those Progenitors are the legendary lizards and dragons (helpful kind):-

Sophia <[email protected]>


June 22, 2020

There are more players to this process than simply humanity. There is Gaia. There are the Draco. There are also the Progenitors. When you add to these, the group within humanity now carrying out orders of the Draco, and largely unknown to humanity in general, you get a more complete picture.

Your next phase will be an initial step towards defining some of the players. These are players to which most of you are completely unaware and the few of you who suspect, do not have the complete story. It will come as a surprise on some level for all of you at once.

Imagine the moment when the wizard steps out from behind the curtain. Now add to it, multiple wizards and curtains and you’ll begin to grasp what awaits.

Will you be more specific please?

Suffice to say that you are at the door. It will be opened from the outside, and suddenly.

June 24, 2020

An okay has been granted, and universally so, for outside help for planet earth. The light has been switched and is now green.

What does this mean specifically?

It means that help arrives…I will not use the word “soon”. This helps comes in so many ways and answers much.

You’ve been praying for help. It is on the way for you now.

In this season it begins.

June 26, 2020

Change is here.

Change also arrives.

The two statements define the coming moment. It will strike those members of humanity who are least awake to the true nature of the abuses here, the hardest. It will have no connection to either “side”, but will be brought about by both.

This is a planned event.

This is an arrival.

You call them Progenitors because they came before your current race and had a hand in the formation of this one. They are not connected to the Draco. They are not human either, but the designers. They arrive now as a part of their plan to return and observe their creation.

Their purpose is observation. The Draco fear them, are not “sanctioned” by them, and will thus back off.

The explanation of why they are here will come from them.

They will not stay permanently.

It is not a “fake invasion”.

They mean no harm to the race.

With this knowing you are forewarned and can then assist in explanation.
 

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