(URGENT: PLEASE READ) QANON: THE PLAN TO SAVE THE WORLD (1 Viewer)

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As I see it, our willingness to die for the Freedom of others is a VERY good thing. And it may be the only thing that eventually saves this world.
We cancelled the sacrifice programme SG. No one needs to die!
 
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We cancelled the sacrifice programme SG. No one needs to die!
I DEFINITELY agree...just saying that's how we feel about it. :) I'm pretty sure we've all done it ourselves a time or two in prior lives...time now to move BEYOND that paradigm! :D

And something just occurred to me as I reread my own post. I truly think we're fighting the same Deep State now that we were then. Now that I think about it, it always seems to have been about the "Elite Ruling Class" vs. the "unwashed masses". The roots of Deep State run very, VERY deep...through millennia, actually. Hmmm. Something more to think about.
 
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I'm with Pod - the sacrificial is the negative ET domination agenda of things. Imagine even believing that sacrifice could or would be in some way beneficial for the service to the community - by sacrificing one or more of their own! This is something that has been deliberately etched into our collective unconscious for millennia - and it's time is done! On the other side of the sacrificial coin is guilt-tripping! Guilty if you do, guilty if you don't. The Yahweh/Jehovah alien entity has a lot to answer for!
 
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I'd like to invite Sinera on either this or a new thread to give us a viewpoint about how life is in Germany these days. It's a country where I have spent some time, and have a love for it. I haven't been back there since 2006. My gut is telling me that things have become a helluva lot tighter, more restrictive, less freedom to move - and that might be just because of population explosion. Last time I looked it was circa 90 million in a relatively small geographic framework. The Germans have a love of systems - when I lived there everything was (as they pronounce it) siss-tame this and siss-tame that. I wonder if formulating all those systems have had a kind of boxing-in effect? The liberty and freedom that I experienced in Germany was all about their carefully-preserved wild areas, such as Alps, walder (forests) and beautiful deep glacial lakes. Every few kilometres, there was another wald, where you could walk, cycle, or lie down for a kip. Is it still the same, Sinera? Or has politics overpowered the (in my opinion) extremely intelligent German mind? As you point out, SG's perspective in the first post is American-centric, and I would love to know how the German people as a whole are coming through all this decay and destruction of the old paradigm. There have been so many German geniuses alive at one time or another, I am sure that some of them must be creating anew from the dust of the old.
 

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Imagine even believing that sacrifice could or would be in some way beneficial for the service to the community - by sacrificing one or more of their own!
Well it is Jesus on the cross stuff isn't it? Dying for our sins. Pleeeaaase! Moslem honour killings. Gross energy. Victim/tyrant paradigm is over!!!!!
 
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I'd like to invite Sinera on either this or a new thread to give us a viewpoint about how life is in Germany these days. It's a country where I have spent some time, and have a love for it.
Thank you for your kind post. I do not want to post a lot anymore about politics, my culture or society at the moment since I might be misunderstood ... or whatever. I will not do a thread as you suggest but can make some short comments here.

Just btw, I also wanted to do another thread recently about the perpetuated drone wars that are even intensifying now under Trump (like they did with Obama before) and that hardly seems to be known or talked about in the US. It is an important topic, so I feel. There is some hard official data and facts out there about this. But it was is not at all meant to be unilaterally hostile to the US because Germany (our Deep State so to speak) are also to blame since all of this would not be possible due to the Ramstein (not the band!) US airbase in Germany, which serves as a relay station for the drone mass killings. It is tolerated by the German government. Nothing is being done apart from the protests and rallys of a few informed good people.

But as said, given the misunderstandings I encounter or produce now with political opinions or my own faulty wording I dropped the thread now altogether. I now even fear that talking about Germany in a single thread only would have a similar effect. It could be insulting to a few people - for whatever reason, we know that anything is insulting nowadays :-)).

Thank you anyway and it is nice that you loved most of the country when you lived there. I am not really patriotic (see that I even leave out the quotation marks now as was recommended for avoiding wrong impressions of snarky-ness ;)) about my own country at all, since patriotism is not really a character trait of mine or of most Germans in general (apart from football events maybe), but I like living too here for the most part despite some of its weaknesses. And yes, we still have the many forests and nature is still fine and cared for here.

I believe people are also really fine here and many tourists and guests notice it when they visit us. It is a bit similar to what the visitors of this year's Worldcup 2018 said about the Russian hosts despite the media hate campaigns in the West and existing biases about Russia. Everything is nice and people are friendly. We had this same situation with people from all over the world saying it in 2006 when we hosted the WC. So I remember personally. Also here is e.g. a very old bookmarked blog post from the BBC I still had from that time. It is stating the same, it is short, but you can also read more from the reader's comments below it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/worldcup/2006/06/we_all_love_the_germans.html

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Just wanted to say thank you for the discussion in here and I appreciate the various viewpoints given by everyone. I think it is important to utilize critical thinking skills.
 
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I’ll get into above posts later...just found this great summation in support of “Q”s veracity. I think it’s well worth considering for those who may have doubts.

“This is usually called "the scientific method" — something is possibly true, given the absence of evidence of its falsehood. I've spent 9 solid months trying to prove #QAnon is a larp/hoax/con and couldn't; so we're left with the conclusion it's % #MAGA.”

“#QAnon has been through the fact checking factory of #4chan and #8chan. These are brutal beyond compare: a ruthless army of "anons" — often professionals in computer science, military, law, intl affairs — who dissect every assertion, compare it to vast bodies of open source data.”

The quotes are from Martin Geddes (@martingeddes on tw&tter).

He is absolutely right. When I was actively participating on the 4chan boards from October to February, when they switched paltforms, the analysis and investigation of EVERYTHING Q put out was thoroughly impressive. It was quite obvious to me that, despite the many “armchair investigators” (not that they should be at all discounted for their skills or dedication), there were LOTS of Anons who obviously KNEW THEIR SH—. Clearly lots of professionals and former professionals, working hand-in-hand with everyday citizens. It was actually quite remarkable to see.

Just wanted to share this, for what it’s worth!
 

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What an amazing thread.

For me SG hits the nail on the head perfectly. I too have been following the Q phenomenon since it started, and was also initially skeptical but now I'm convinced otherwise, having read, researched for myself, and followed up on other people's research. When you really start digging, you'd be amazed at the deep state connections to virtually everything.

Researchers/Disseminators I can recommend, if you're on Twitter:

@ElemiFuentes
@coreysdigs
@rising_serpent
@LisaMei62
@intheMatrixxx
@QProofs
@martingeddes

Whatever people may think about who Q is, I truly believe that their primary motive is to wake people up, make them question the story they've been fed on MSM, research for themselves and make their own minds up. As SG said, it's part of a spiritual awakening in humanity, and is not really political in nature. Regardless of whether you believe what Q is saying or not, it's all good - no judgment here.

The Universe doesn't make mistakes, and it's playing out the way it is because it's meant to, otherwise it wouldn't be happening.
 

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on one point i must agree with a well known problem, you write something and you speak about the written face to face it has an other effect, by that way the writing can be somestimes be misunderpreated

by the way very interesting subject

and i don t understand much of politic and wasn t my intention
 
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"Over the course of the last week, the cultural and political phenomenon known as the QAnon Movement has been categorically attacked by nearly every major legacy media organization in the US in what appears to be a coordinated effort to mischaracterize and discredit it in rapid succession... such a barrage of coordinated mainstream media attacks has not been seen since Wikileaks published The Podesta Emails in the final weeks before the 2016 US Presidential Election.
"By all objective standards, the popularity of the movement is on the rise. Yet, QAnon remains by design inherently mysterious. No one knows QAnon’s actual identity, as the information is exclusively published on the anonymous forum 8chan... 8chan remains one of the last online vestiges that values freedom of thought, speech, and information.
"These communications have inspired a 24/7 global research gathering on 8chan’s QResearch Board, composed of tens of thousands of anonymous researchers, who scour all open source information to substantiate, interpret, and expand upon QAnon’s posts. The posts along with the best of the anon research are sent across the social media ecosystem at an astounding rate via a loyal vox populi distribution system. In a recent article, Time claimed that QAnon was among the 10 most influential voices on the internet today.
"QAnon’s central theme is that President Trump, along with patriotic elements of the US Military and Intelligence Community, are currently in a real-time battle to disrupt and dismantle highly corrupt, criminal, and, often times, seditious governmental and private sector corporate systems in the US and internationally.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/ascending-legacy-media-spotlight-propels-qanon-movement/
 

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Here is Clif High with some very interesting perspectives on Q Anon (he thinks he is real by the way)

 
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GREAT find, Pod! Thanks for sharing! Sarah and Cliff are AWESOME (the Q-Anon part starts around 5:00 or so). I find it incredible how "synchronicity" (manifesting through each one of us) brings things to our attention that we would have missed otherwise. Thank you!!!

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Holy Mackerel...Clif is POINT ON. I had no idea he was that aware of the Q phenom. It sounds like he's been on top of it from the very beginning and fully supports it. To me, this is a HUGE validation (as I trust Clif and his work). One point of contention for me however, was Clif's criticism of David Wilcock's excitement over the "10,000" sealed indictments. I think he's way off on that one. The number is now well over 50,000 and this is HIGHLY unusual. In fact, the meme I did below was only about a month ago, so you can see for yourself how fast these sealed case numbers are going up! It's very clear to me that these are not just "civil cases" or "restraining orders".

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I also don't agree that David Wilcock is a sociopath or intentional "disinfo agent". I feel he was simply duped and manipulated.

Sarah and Clif are also DEAD ON that no one should be trusted--except yourself. I've seen it OVER AND OVER AND OVER, how I'll "trust" someone, then their path (or truth) suddenly "diverges" from mine. I'm learning to accept these changes or shifts more gracefully, appreciate how that person helped me discover MY OWN TRUTH, and then move on with gratitude. It's been an interesting process!

This journey just seems to get more exciting and interesting with each passing day--and I'm so glad to have all of you with me along the way!!!
 
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The number is now well over 50,000 and this is HIGHLY unusual.
That would be a very high number, but so far Zero arrests (that we know of) SG. The only idea I had was that if arrests were to take place we would probably have an immediate civil war since the accused would not go silently and would mobilize all their resources (all the useful "fools" being activated in no time, legal forces, the press, economy being impacted, the arrested making "deals" disclosing even more names, etc., etc.) and it would not be good for the nation, the real "hidden powers," national security (we would be very vulnerable during the internal chaos period), worldwide economy; and I'm just starting.
 
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That would be a very high number, but so far Zero arrests (that we know of) SG. The only idea I had was that if arrests were to take place we would probably have an immediate civil war since the accused would not go silently and would mobilize all their resources (all the useful "fools" being activated in no time, legal forces, the press, economy being impacted, the arrested making "deals" disclosing even more names, etc., etc.) and it would not be good for the nation, the real "hidden powers," national security (we would be very vulnerable during the internal chaos period), worldwide economy; and I'm just starting.
Don't quote me as any authority, but it would appears from the near-daily Qanon content (and resulting analysis discussions) that the arrests have principally been under military law, not played out in the public eye (I'm very okay with that, for many of the same concerns as Carl has voiced above...).
 
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GREAT find, Pod! Thanks for sharing
Happy to help the cause Stargazer.

Clif certainly speaks of Wilcock and Corey Goode in the harshest terms, it surprised me too.

I sense that Clif views knowledge as sacred and goes to great lengths to verify what he imparts, so he has little time or patience for anyone who does otherwise.

I have never had time for either of them so it does not matter to me.
 
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Clif certainly speaks of Wilcocks and Corey Goode in the harshest terms, it surprised me too.

I sense that Clif view knowledge as sacred and goes to great lengths to verify what he imparts, so he has little time or patience for anyone who does otherwise.
You've summed up his response perfectly. I know many people consider Wilcocks a disinfo person because he comes out with info in drips and drabs, jumps on info others are sharing, and makes money with books and appearances. All of this does not necessarily make you a disinfo person. For me, he is irritating because so much of what he writes or says is about him - how he has struggled, etc. We all are struggling. Goode's story is pretty fantastic and so different that it is hard to believe. However, that does not mean it is false. I've run into some blue beings in the astral. Finally, they've been caught up in the Gaia TV mess, which does not mean they are dishonorable, but does leave a bit of a taint.

I do like Clif, and he has some great info and insights; however, I take some care with what he says, too.
 
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Clif certainly speaks of Wilcocks
many people consider Wilcocks a disinfo person
This is actually a funny phenomenon. Btw, I am not a fan of him and view him and Goode highly critical. So I do not want to 'defend' him. But let me point out anyway his name is Wilcock - without the -s.
o_O

Really strikes me as funny how almost everybody gets his name wrong. Seems a kind of spread meme already. Even the Health Ranger did it and apologized then for it to him in his video about him:


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However, that does not mean it is false. I've run into some blue beings in the astral. Finally, they've been caught up in the Gaia TV mess, which does not mean they are dishonorable, but does leave a bit of a taint.
You know Linda at the end of the day we are all trying our best and playing our parts.
 
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You've summed up his response perfectly. I know many people consider Wilcocks a disinfo person because he comes out with info in drips and drabs, jumps on info others are sharing, and makes money with books and appearances. All of this does not necessarily make you a disinfo person. For me, he is irritating because so much of what he writes or says is about him - how he has struggled, etc. We all are struggling. Goode's story is pretty fantastic and so different that it is hard to believe. However, that does not mean it is false. I've run into some blue beings in the astral. Finally, they've been caught up in the Gaia TV mess, which does not mean they are dishonorable, but does leave a bit of a taint.

I do like Clif, and he has some great info and insights; however, I take some care with what he says, too.
Only things that arrives in focus is avartar and arcturians if the pics of their appearance is no lie
 
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Excellent video.
The video tells us that if we have a true nasty event take place (or even a false flag or black swan) it will be a clear indication that the elite feels they are in such precarious situation that such action is their only path left to salvage themselves. Therefore, the end for them may be close at that point.
 
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Let's hope it does not come to that....basically he is talking about an EMP which would be a disaster Carl.
 
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basically he is talking about an EMP which would be a disaster Carl.
I know, however, now that the possibility of an EMP has been exposed the plan may be perhaps be modified a bit, that way the element of surprise/real perpetrator is maintained. What is not discussed is that after an EMP there are automatic responses already in place and could trigger a conflagration impacting the entire world -remember we have military resources now underwater, underground (shielded from EMPs), air, outside the US, and even in space that could launch a counterattack (to the right perpetrator or not) if the US soil is impacted.
 
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I know, however, now that the possibility of an EMP has been exposed the plan may be perhaps be modified a bit, that way the element of surprise/real perpetrator is maintained.
I hope you are right. They are talking about the White Hats and the UK's MI% staging a chemical attack in Idlib, Syria, it is even in the Independent, one of our mainstream newspapers. Let's see if that stops it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/syria-chemical-weapons-virginia-senator-richard-black-uk-mi6-assad-russia-a8529681.html
 
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