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Sai Baba

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The moment that every man and woman on Earth, takes responsibility for his own life and instead of talking about legality starts talking about humanity. The cohabitation between men and is based on the only law to be observed and that is: "Do not harm"! Instead of always expect that someone must give something, begin to give things away (first love yourself) and then with that attitude of benevolence meet others. All our desires can be fulfilled when we clear the mind and express what we want.
Just today I was talking to my friends about how this planet works. It 'so easy that a 5 year old child understands it immediately. In this game (the current system) there are masters who own everything, they own even you and you can identify this category very easily. They are the ones who create the money. To hide this fact that in reality 'the people of Mother Earth' are in Slavery and the masters have invented religions. Every religion has thousands of sub-religions that you can identify as the system of beliefs. When we learn the truth '- we exposed all the lies and the old system collapses like a house of cards.
Conclusion: "The most 'serious decease of man is called identification. I know, when you start reading the website below, that this is not easy, step by step, with much love for yourself, you get to freedom. Still holding in mind that the more freedom you have the more responsibility you have to take.

https://kateofgaia.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/mark-of-the-beast/
The Truth will set you free
 

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'the people of Mother Earth' are in Slavery and the masters have invented religions. Every religion has thousands of sub-religions that you can identify as the system of beliefs.
Don't know if I can understand or agree with everything that is on that article of that website, but the quoted passage here is certainly very true for me. Organised religion or cult of any kind is a trap for humanity and people might even then be trapped (for a while or longer) afterwards when they transitioned.
I also often try to reason about 'money' and whom does a system like this really serve. You are always immediately equated with being a socialist or communist when you just do not agree with the 'capitalist' money system but this only reveals the black/white duality thinking you find so often when you discuss these things.
 

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... the only law to be observed and that is: "Do not harm"! Instead of always expect that someone must give something, begin to give things away (first love yourself) and then with that attitude of benevolence meet others. All our desires can be fulfilled when we clear the mind and express what we want.
I also like this although it is difficult to achieve and very 'idealist'.
 

Carl

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the only law to be observed and that is: "Do not harm"!
If that is so then what we need to address first in my opinion is what is considered as "harm" in general nowadays. Experience has showed me that to many people (specially the ones belonging to the "me society") even just expressing an idea contrary to what they hold as "sacred and immutable" (in politics for example just to mention one) constitute an attempt to harm them, or to the most radical, a direct attack, therefore in their minds they were harmed and thus they are justified to take any action to suppress that idea or to take any action against the person(s) expressing the idea that harmed them.
Yes, I realize too that we are getting in the arena of addressing the ego of people, and that is tied to the individual spiritual development of each soul IMHO.
 

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Experience has showed me that to many people (specially the ones belonging to the "me society") even just expressing an idea contrary to what they hold as "sacred and immutable" (in politics for example just to mention one) constitute an attempt to harm them, or to the most radical, a direct attack, therefore in their minds they were harmed and thus they are justified to take any action to suppress that idea or to take any action against the person(s) expressing the idea that harmed them.
I think I know what you mean. It's the new form of 'political correctness' where one already feels 'harmed' or 'offended' by someone's. different opinion. And furthermore for some of the 'offended' it is then justified to 'harm them back' even with violent reactions. It's a really disturbing trend, normally among liberalism but it can also be found among alt-right and other political ideologies.

Generally 'do not harm' is a good principle in its basic wording. But even that can be 'relative' and 'interpretable', as the above example shows.

This topic reminds me of the Golden Rule and the similar Kant-based philosophic principle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative#The_Golden_Rule
The 'Golden Rule' (in its negative form) says: "Do not impose on others what you do not wish for yourself."[14]

The 'Golden Rule' (in its positive form) says: "Treat others how you wish to be treated".[15]

Kant's first formulation of his Categorical Imperative says: "Act only in accordance with that maxim through which you can at the same time will that it become a universal law."
However, even here it is never said clearly what that universal law shall be then and there is always room for interpretation.
 

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I'm fully aware of the sovereign mov't. Tje meaning of money and religious propaganda. I just don't like to be spoken to like an idiot with all the hateful rhetoric in the article. It completely turned me off and I didn't finish the article. How about giving me said info in a respectful tone without being spoken to like I'm an idiot.
 

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I'm certain there's a way to work both within and without "the system"--a way to find balance, if you will. I think that's what many of us "star seeds" are here to do, in fact. The idea reminds me a bit of the Bible story where, when asked about whether Jews should pay taxes, Jesus says, "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's".

I think this is exactly what we're currently seeing in our world. People are finally waking up and seeing that large portions of our most trusted institutions (religion, media, law, military, medicine, science, government, corporations, etc.) have become corrupt and weak. People are choosing not to support them, speaking up, and taking united stands against them. They're "rendering the things to Caesar that are Caesar's" and instead, turning back toward an organic, spiritual unity (or God, as some may prefer). As a result, these outdated/archaic control systems are becoming more chaotic and desperate--they're self-destructing.

With all this happening, I would caution against giving them too much energy and attention. What we resist, persists. I love the quote, often credited to Socrates, that says, "The secret of change is to focus all of your energy, not on fighting the old, but on building the new."

While I understand the sovereign movement and its desire to cut all ties with any so-called "authority" or its control measures, I see the whole situation as an exercise in discernment, free choice, and duality. It's the game we came here (in this physical world and body) to play. We each have a tremendous opportunity to create positive change simply by exercising our own "sovereign" free will in the choices we make, each and every day. We can also increase the pace of that change by focusing our energies on those things we wish to create (or experience, depending upon your perspective of this "reality").

At the end of the day, we are ultimately here to have this experience--and we can trust that we will always be in exactly the right place, at exactly the right time, to have the experiences we are meant to have. There is nothing to fear.

Yes, we were born into these systems of control--but once we realize what the controls are, we find we are already Sovereign. We remember that we are beautiful, unique, and cherished aspects of One Divine Being.

And, personally, I can't think of a better place or "state" in which to be!
 

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I wish I could go back and be Xanthippe, and this time I would lavish love on Socrates, and not be a bad-tempered, frozen-hearted, sassy chick. I would realise that I was married to one of the world's supreme and sublime philosophers and that such flowers are a rarity and a treat.
 
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Sai Baba

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If that is so then what we need to address first in my opinion is what is considered as "harm" in general nowadays. Experience has showed me that to many people (specially the ones belonging to the "me society") even just expressing an idea contrary to what they hold as "sacred and immutable" (in politics for example just to mention one) constitute an attempt to harm them, or to the most radical, a direct attack, therefore in their minds they were harmed and thus they are justified to take any action to suppress that idea or to take any action against the person(s) expressing the idea that harmed them.
Yes, I realize too that we are getting in the arena of addressing the ego of people, and that is tied to the individual spiritual development of each soul IMHO.
beautiful .. what you are writing ... the "me society" ... the "gimmi ... gimmi" people ... there a so many games in society ... that I decided long ago ... that I am not a part of it ... to me ... society is crazy ... everything is backwards ... why people are playing games? ... Because they do not have "life force" ... most don't take responsibility for what they are saying and what they are doing ... most people are lying often ... their actions are quite never corresponding with what they are saying ... this I experienced all over the world ... and people are naive ... thinking that politicians ... religious leaders ... new age gurus ... medical doctors ... shamans ... and so on will solve their problems ...

I start with the basic ... to tell always the truth and to always be benevolent ... never share second hand knowledge ... always talk from experience ... that is the only thing we can be sure to be true ...
 
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Sai Baba

Sai Baba

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I think I know what you mean. It's the new form of 'political correctness' where one already feels 'harmed' or 'offended' by someone's. different opinion. And furthermore for some of the 'offended' it is then justified to 'harm them back' even with violent reactions. It's a really disturbing trend, normally among liberalism but it can also be found among alt-right and other political ideologies.

Generally 'do not harm' is a good principle in its basic wording. But even that can be 'relative' and 'interpretable', as the above example shows.

This topic reminds me of the Golden Rule and the similar Kant-based philosophic principle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative#The_Golden_Rule


However, even here it is never said clearly what that universal law shall be then and there is always room for interpretation.

What I discovered it that the problem lies in the emotions ... if we get emotionally involved ... we are hooked and not rational anymore ... there is one Truth that is not debatable ... and here Cognitive Dissonance kicks in in many ... and this is : IT IS ILLEGAL TO USE A LEGAL NAME ... I know this 100% ... own experience ... I invite all of you to investigate this ... I am only available for those with a open mind and heart ... no desire to fight here ......
 
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Sai Baba

Sai Baba

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I'm certain there's a way to work both within and without "the system"--a way to find balance, if you will. I think that's what many of us "star seeds" are here to do, in fact. The idea reminds me a bit of the Bible story where, when asked about whether Jews should pay taxes, Jesus says, "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's".

I think this is exactly what we're currently seeing in our world. People are finally waking up and seeing that large portions of our most trusted institutions (religion, media, law, military, medicine, science, government, corporations, etc.) have become corrupt and weak. People are choosing not to support them, speaking up, and taking united stands against them. They're "rendering the things to Caesar that are Caesar's" and instead, turning back toward an organic, spiritual unity (or God, as some may prefer). As a result, these outdated/archaic control systems are becoming more chaotic and desperate--they're self-destructing.

With all this happening, I would caution against giving them too much energy and attention. What we resist, persists. I love the quote, often credited to Socrates, that says, "The secret of change is to focus all of your energy, not on fighting the old, but on building the new."

While I understand the sovereign movement and its desire to cut all ties with any so-called "authority" or its control measures, I see the whole situation as an exercise in discernment, free choice, and duality. It's the game we came here (in this physical world and body) to play. We each have a tremendous opportunity to create positive change simply by exercising our own "sovereign" free will in the choices we make, each and every day. We can also increase the pace of that change by focusing our energies on those things we wish to create (or experience, depending upon your perspective of this "reality").

At the end of the day, we are ultimately here to have this experience--and we can trust that we will always be in exactly the right place, at exactly the right time, to have the experiences we are meant to have. There is nothing to fear.

Yes, we were born into these systems of control--but once we realize what the controls are, we find we are already Sovereign. We remember that we are beautiful, unique, and cherished aspects of One Divine Being.

And, personally, I can't think of a better place or "state" in which to be!

Your advice is perfect ... Socrates ... told it eons ago ... to build the new ...what is needed is sharing love and wisdom ... this we do here ... by writing ... then later on we start talking to each others ... in cyberspace ... I discovered a Wallie-talkie ... downloadable from googleplay store o apple store on the mobile phone .... it is called zello ... the icon is a "Z" with a yellow background ... in the past ... when I was a lightworker ... we already had something similar called ventrilo ... this system of communication brigs us much closer together and many misunderstandings get out of the way ... many projects are staring like that and when we finally meet we know each others quite well ...

To be fully sovereign ... the study of the Legal Name Fraud is compulsory ... only by losing the Legal Name ... the agents of the system have non jurisdiction and therefore non power ..... it is wishful thinking that we can be sovereign only by ignoring the so-called "authorities" ...

If now you still want to talk with me ... my nic on zello is saibababvertum ... saibaba +b + vertum ... and on skype saibabavertum ...
 

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It 'so easy that a 5 year old child understands it immediately. In this game (the current system) there are masters who own everything, they own even you and you can identify this category very easily. They are the ones who create the money. To hide this fact that in reality 'the people of Mother Earth' are in Slavery and the masters have invented religions. Every religion has thousands of sub-religions that you can identify as the system of beliefs. When we learn the truth '- we exposed all the lies and the old system collapses like a house of cards.
Hi Sai, Is your name /vibration connected to Shirdi Sai Baba, or the recent Sai Baba who has passed on in recent years?

I'm not sure if a 5 yr old can understand this earth system that we find ourselves in, as most adults do not.
As time goes on the less inclined I am to taking sides or choosing 'light' over 'dark'. The higher beings that oversee this earth project ALLOW things to occur as they do, contrary to what our conscious mind tell us. If not they wouldn't be allowed to happen. They test the soul and increase a rapid evolution if that is what some souls yearn for. Others may like to simple lose themselves in choices and their outcomes. A friend when sharing of his OBE experiences (Todd Acamesis) told a group of us that ' sometimes a master sleeps in the dark to help others find their light.' I've since learned that to be true. I'll add that it seems the more direct experiences one has of the 'afterlife'/non-physical realities the further we move away from blame, divisions, or that the earth is in 'trouble'.

This is one of his videos.

What Is The Nature And Purpose Of Physical Reality?
 
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Hi Sai, Is your name /vibration connected to Shirdi Sai Baba, or the recent Sai Baba who has passed on in recent years?

I'm not sure if a 5 yr old can understand this earth system that we find ourselves in, as most adults do not.
As time goes on the less inclined I am to taking sides or choosing 'light' over 'dark'. The higher beings that oversee this earth project ALLOW things to occur as they do, contrary to what our conscious mind tell us. If not they wouldn't be allowed to happen. They test the soul and increase a rapid evolution if that is what some souls yearn for. Others may like to simple lose themselves in choices and their outcomes. A friend when sharing of his OBE experiences (Todd Acamesis) told a group of us that ' sometimes a master sleeps in the dark to help others find their light.' I've since learned that to be true. I'll add that it seems the more direct experiences one has of the 'afterlife'/non-physical realities the further we move away from blame, divisions, or that the earth is in 'trouble'.

This is one of his videos.

What Is The Nature And Purpose Of Physical Reality?
I remember very well when I was 5 years old ... that was the time when I made a vow to myself ... and it was that I would always remember that I was a child once ... I was very connected at that time ... even it came to my mind that i was god ... then I discarded it ... it was to far out for me at that time ... adults are adulterated ... the word is telling it ... it is proven that with each year of schooling the children are loosing creativity ... and when school finishes ... adulteration is completed ...
What I am experiencing now ... is that I am talking intensely to this 5 year old and make sure that his traumas get healed ... now I am at that point where the small little me is able to relax and watch at the show with a grown up view ...
Now I share with you all my latest post in the fb group "Babilonia è Crollata" ... which i am involved with ....:
"Negli ultimi mesi ho fatto tantissime traduzioni e le ho pubblicati sul mio blog www.saibabavertum.wordpress.com ... questo link fino a poco fa veniva censurato da fb ... ultimamente non piu' ... sono felice di questo ... non siamo ancora arrivati a "1984" di George Orwell ... dove il Ministero della Verità detta cosa la gente deve sapere e cosa no ... comunque mi piacerebbe del feedback ... vedo che qualcuno legge questi saggi ... nessuno ... o quasi ... si esprime ... siete tutti scioccati di quello che leggete ... lo capisco ... ero in crisi pure io quatto anni fa ... quando ho iniziato a studiare questo ... passeraà ... continuate a leggere ... vi assicuro che vi cambia la consapevolezza ... questi testi sono carichi di energia positiva ... è vi fa vedere una realtà che sapevate che esiste ... ma è rimasta nascosta da un velo ....."
Here is it in English: In the last months I translated essays from English and published them on my blog www.saibabavertum.wordpress.com ... ( in English: www.kateofgaia.wordpress.com and https://leannansith.wordpress.com/ ) ... this link was censored for a while by fb ... lately no more ... I am happy this happens ... we are not yet al "1984" George Orwell ... where the Ministry of Truth is dictating what people can know and what not ... I would like some feedback ... I see people are reading these essays ... nobody ... or nearly nobody is expressing themselves ... are you all shocked? ... I understand ... I passed a crisis also four years ago ... when I first started studying this ... it will pass .... contiunue studying and reading ... I guarantee you that your consciousness will change ... these texts are loaded with positive energy ... and they show you thigs you did know existed ... but they have been hidden behind a veil ....
Now I am going to download your video ... will watch it later on and give you feedback ...
Much Love
sai
 
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Hi Sai, Is your name /vibration connected to Shirdi Sai Baba, or the recent Sai Baba who has passed on in recent years?

I'm not sure if a 5 yr old can understand this earth system that we find ourselves in, as most adults do not.
As time goes on the less inclined I am to taking sides or choosing 'light' over 'dark'. The higher beings that oversee this earth project ALLOW things to occur as they do, contrary to what our conscious mind tell us. If not they wouldn't be allowed to happen. They test the soul and increase a rapid evolution if that is what some souls yearn for. Others may like to simple lose themselves in choices and their outcomes. A friend when sharing of his OBE experiences (Todd Acamesis) told a group of us that ' sometimes a master sleeps in the dark to help others find their light.' I've since learned that to be true. I'll add that it seems the more direct experiences one has of the 'afterlife'/non-physical realities the further we move away from blame, divisions, or that the earth is in 'trouble'.

This is one of his videos.

What Is The Nature And Purpose Of Physical Reality?

I am at minute 38.25 of your video ... wow .... I stoped it to write to you ... how i came in this place here ... I have so much on the plate ... in the Italian language to inform people about the legal name fraud ... and so many people speaking English are dedicated to share this truth ... I am not needed ... so there is the sincronicity I am here ... now find you and the guy in the video ... what he is experincing ... is ... Interstate 60 ... the road on which I am on ... now I am going to sleep ... watch the rest tomorrow ... good night ....
 
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