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I started reading The Return of the Light http://www.thenewearth.org/returnoflight.html (although that is not the only place it can be read). I heard Cobra mention it in an interview as a good source of information. It really resonated with me, but now I have encountered a comment from the channel, years later, who says that it was "compromised". Anyone else here read this book?
 

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Yes, I have it in my bookmarks and I have read most of it. I think there was something related to prophecies not coming true, which unfortunately seems to be the norm in this timeline, but I am not sure if that really means that anything is compromised.

I read it at the time when I was opening to getting to know my twin flame, so it was very useful to me to read the passages related to it. It was nice to learn about the Light Warriors and I really liked Horus and the Prime Creator.

If there is something I am not particularly sure, it is that the most favourite souls created by Horus were really lost when the darkness started spreading in our universe. Can they really be lost forever? That sounds kind of scary.
 
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I was also curious about the "melting down" of souls likened to a golden chalice in a golden melting pot. Later in the book, Herus mentions that it was unknown if those soul's Divine blueprints could be restored and the souls recreated. I guess we will find out later.

Slayer, did you read the part about God's Breath (I see that as The Event) being up to 300 years from the time of the channeling? Yes, it seems very likely that we are are an alternate timeline. Thank you for pointing that out. I looked for more information on the channel, Karen Kirschenbaum, but found nothing. End of message, I guess!
 

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Yeah, that creator god really didn't know. I think I intuitively believe that it is possible, but I really don't know.

Last week, a couple of sources I trust stated that all timelines are collapsing into the original that exists without intervention from the bad guys. One of the sources says that the event actually happened there. If that is true, we have one and now we only need to bring that victory to the reality we live in.

Often times I wonder about the fresh and hopeful souls who are so keen to help the earth return to its glory and keep. Maybe they are made of different dough, or maybe I stayed here for too long?
 
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Lol...that last line you wrote made my day. It is my impression that the lightworkers being born in the 21st century are here to do the repair and restoration. Personally, I am crystal clear that I am a system buster but have nothing to do with the afterward. It doesn't even remotely interest me... although I would admittedly be one of the first to the party...
 

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Personally, I am crystal clear that I am a system buster but have nothing to do with the afterward.
Funny, I see myself a bit as a system buster myself -I used to call myself "agent of change" at the companies I worked at :). But contrary to you Moonseal, I would love to work in the rebuild and restoration, only that since technically I have more years behind me than at front I will have to content myself with the hope that I may get to do so in a future reincarnation :-(
 

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This is unfolding in an interesting way for me. I was doing the Sandra Walter ascension course (currently in the middle and loving it). Then, I stumbled across this Return of the Light book and realized that I'm not really here to ascend off the planet. I'm here to stay on it and be as high in vibration as possible. This has sort of changed the way I am approaching things: less goal oriented, more happiness oriented. I suppose that is the entire point of ascension anyway, and I was trying a little too hard before I changed course.
 

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It would be interesting for me to know what you, as one who has decided to stay and give your energy to helping the birth of the new earth, think about those who have decided to go home?

There was a time when I felt kind of bad about having made that choice. I even left the transient FB group because I felt I didn't fit in with all those lovely people who adored Mother Earth. I couldn't understand, had they forgotten their homeworlds?

I feel quite exhausted from sticking around for quite a long time. When I heard the theory of Dolores Cannon about the 3 waves of starseeds, I laughed out loud because what she considers to be the first must be one of the most recent ones.
 

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This is unfolding in an interesting way for me. I was doing the Sandra Walter ascension course (currently in the middle and loving it). Then, I stumbled across this Return of the Light book and realized that I'm not really here to ascend off the planet. I'm here to stay on it and be as high in vibration as possible. This has sort of changed the way I am approaching things: less goal oriented, more happiness oriented. I suppose that is the entire point of ascension anyway, and I was trying a little too hard before I changed course.
Realising this is the unfolding of a petal in the flower that is unfolding itself to share its fragrance and beauty for all eternity.
 

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This is unfolding in an interesting way for me. I was doing the Sandra Walter ascension course (currently in the middle and loving it). Then, I stumbled across this Return of the Light book and realized that I'm not really here to ascend off the planet. I'm here to stay on it and be as high in vibration as possible. This has sort of changed the way I am approaching things: less goal oriented, more happiness oriented. I suppose that is the entire point of ascension anyway, and I was trying a little too hard before I changed course.
I came to the very same realization a year or so ago...and it has helped me feel quite a bit more "settled" and at peace with myself.
 

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It would be interesting for me to know what you, as one who has decided to stay and give your energy to helping the birth of the new earth, think about those who have decided to go home?

There was a time when I felt kind of bad about having made that choice. I even left the transient FB group because I felt I didn't fit in with all those lovely people who adored Mother Earth. I couldn't understand, had they forgotten their homeworlds?

I feel quite exhausted from sticking around for quite a long time.
As I see it, we're all doing our parts, whether that is here in the physical, off-planet, or elsewhere--even those more aligned at the moment with "The Dark". It's up to each of us to discover our own purpose--or even not. Just because some may not be awake to their purpose doesn't mean they aren't fulfilling one.

We're all playing our parts quite well, too!

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It would be interesting for me to know what you, as one who has decided to stay and give your energy to helping the birth of the new earth, think about those who have decided to go home?

There was a time when I felt kind of bad about having made that choice. I even left the transient FB group because I felt I didn't fit in with all those lovely people who adored Mother Earth. I couldn't understand, had they forgotten their homeworlds?

I feel quite exhausted from sticking around for quite a long time. When I heard the theory of Dolores Cannon about the 3 waves of starseeds, I laughed out loud because what she considers to be the first must be one of the most recent ones.
I would love to hear from Moonseal on this. My insight is that on your own homeworld, or here at the Earth school, your energy signature will be pursuing spiritual expansion. The same work goes on all over the Universe. The Earth school (Terra as it will soon be called) is just a certain configuration allowing rapid development due to multiple, complex polarity/duality scenarios.
 
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Slayer, I am exhausted yet have complete respect toward those that need to go off planet and recharge.

I have chosen to imbed myself, through career choice, in the heart of an old institution that will be at the center of collapse when it happens. It feels as if I am sticking a spear of light into the heart of the dragon, by the sheer act of walking into my workplace. The place is filled with negativity and I spend a lot of time and money on maintaining my energy field and my strength. It is 100% worth it. I am able to turn the sail in the light/right direction multiple times a day (here come the Legend of Zelda- Windwalker references).

The trick, now that I've read Return of the Light, is how to pass through the correct doorway after transitioning into the non-physical. I trust that my Divine Human self knows whether or not we want to stay inside the wheel of karma (er, prison system) or go back home. Meanwhile, it is my plan to have a front row seat until that time.

Ya, the 3 waves of star seeds is an interesting concept. Did you ever read Ken Carey books back in the early 90's? Return of the Bird Tribes, Starseed Transmissions, etc. I feel like the first wave was described in those.


It would be interesting for me to know what you, as one who has decided to stay and give your energy to helping the birth of the new earth, think about those who have decided to go home?

There was a time when I felt kind of bad about having made that choice. I even left the transient FB group because I felt I didn't fit in with all those lovely people who adored Mother Earth. I couldn't understand, had they forgotten their homeworlds?

I feel quite exhausted from sticking around for quite a long time. When I heard the theory of Dolores Cannon about the 3 waves of starseeds, I laughed out loud because what she considers to be the first must be one of the most recent ones.
 

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Ya, the 3 waves of star seeds is an interesting concept. Did you ever read Ken Carey books back in the early 90's? Return of the Bird Tribes, Starseed Transmissions, etc. I feel like the first wave was described in those.
Moonseal, I bought these books off the internet after reading your post. I haven't read through them yet. I did think from the title that the Bird Tribes were Aquatic Bird Tribe aliens (something I've been hungering to research) but it turns out it is about the Iriquois and other Native American tribes who bring much wisdom and shamanism. In any case, it will be a great read.
 

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Gosh, Hailstones...I'm not so sure that the bird figures weren't visitors to both. It crossed my mind that the visitors were the same beings. Let me know what you think after you read the book. I just loved his writing.
I've read most of Carey's books, including those listed. I loved them all and highly recommend them, although there's a very weird passage in one of them (Starseed Transmissions, I think) where he mentions something about us forming a physical Christlike body that takes off into space.

o_O Uh...WHAT?

Yeah, that was my reaction. So with the exception of that (which strangely enough, I've heard before from other sources) they were very good books.

I don't recall if the bird tribes were referenced as an ET race or not though. Too much "water under the bridge" since I've read the books...

:oops:
 

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So much information has flooded this plane since we read those books, hasn't it?
OMG, yes! I have two stacks of books by my bed that I've read over the last two years. If they were in one stack, they'd reach floor to ceiling! And I can't even quantify the material I've read online during that time...a flood is right!!
 
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Ken Carey's books felt so pure to me back then...and still do. These days, when I read anything it's with one eyebrow raised. Some of the stuff I read now... nothing surprises me and I am incredibly discerning about what I will accept as truth. There are so many channels and predictions and disclosure tellers. It's a sea of information.
 
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It occurs to me that we are hurtling into an area of space with very intense vibrations and meanwhile there is a lot of controlling thought projection pointed at the masses. Perhaps people are overwhelmed into numbness and unconsciousness. It took strong intention for me to stay on a forward path through the onslaught of propaganda that this society throws from every angle. Perhaps it is very difficult for most people that are not us. Just a thought.

Edit: that wasn't in response to anyone..just something that occurred to me.
 
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It occurs to me that we are hurtling into an area of space with very intense vibrations and meanwhile there is a lot of controlling thought projection pointed at the masses. Perhaps people are overwhelmed into numbness and unconsciousness. It took strong intention for me to stay on a forward path through the onslaught of propaganda that this society throws from every angle. Perhaps it is very difficult for most people that are not us. Just a thought.

Edit: that wasn't in response to anyone..just something that occurred to me.
I think many of us were able to pick up on things a bit earlier than others...and for a variety of reasons.

I love an analogy that Clif High put out there awhile back. It's like we're a big ol' herd of buffalo out on the plains. Some of us have felt something big was coming, so we've been paying attention while the others were grazing mindlessly. Now we're smelling smoke and starting to move to the edge of the herd where we can see what's going on and have some options.

If we can't help "wake up" the rest of the herd and start moving calmly into a safe direction, they may wake up too suddenly and be thrown into a panic. That panic could send them right over the face of a cliff...

But based upon the folks I have around me, even some folks I had doubts about seem to be waking up pretty quickly--and I feel like we'll be just fine.
 

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Now we're smelling smoke and starting to move to the edge of the herd where we can see what's going on and have some options.
Yes. Where there is smoke a fire is creating it for sure. I smelled it and saw the smoke long time ago and my wife wanted really bad to get out of California before the nasty stuff would hit the fan (the "panic could send them right over the face of a cliff...." that Stargazer mentions above). I believe too that it may be too late for many people to avoid the panic because the disclosures, dramatic events, etc., are already taking place and their speed is starting to accelerate.
 
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Yes. Where there is smoke a fire is creating it for sure. I smelled it and saw the smoke long time ago and my wife wanted really bad to get out of California before the nasty stuff would hit the fan (the "panic could send them right over the face of a cliff...." that Stargazer mentions above). I believe too that it may be too late for many people to avoid the panic because the disclosures, dramatic events, etc., are already taking place and their speed is starting to accelerate.
Boy, there are days that I sure wish I could join you...but I know that I am supposed to be here, right at the core of the chaos. There are some flowers around the chaotic edge if you don't fall in ;)

I just want to share this with you guys: https://twitter.com/SFist/status/855214944664510464 That tweet links to a video of Hippie Hill here on 4/20 (Ground Zero for the Haight scene from the 60's, for those unfamiliar with San Francisco). 4/20 is quite the event, today, as you can see from the video.

Carl, I wish you were here to attend the Bitcoin meeting with me next week!
 

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